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Minh Ly - consistent very high stakes professional poker player.
Layne Flack - multiple WSOP bracelet winner. Highly respected pro.
Scotty Nguyen - Main Event WSOP winner and poker legend.
Doyle Brunson- poker hall of famer and legend.
Was there ever a greater final four? Not counting by invitation only tournaments.
Sightless
10-04-2005, 09:59 PM
Doyle is the man
istewart
10-04-2005, 10:05 PM
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Minh Ly - consistent high stakes General Tso's chicken delivery boy
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FYP.
TimTimSalabim
10-04-2005, 10:13 PM
Best show ever. You've gotta love Layne Flack goofing on Doyle while getting owned by him. Not even ESPN could ruin this one.
sammysusar
10-04-2005, 10:19 PM
yeah it might be nice to have a couple more high stakes short handed events. seems the pros really play better in these spots.
Saddlepoint
10-04-2005, 10:19 PM
The final four of the Season 1 Foxwoods WPT was Howard Lederer, Layne Flack, Andy Bloch, and Phil Ivey. The final four of the Season 1 Bellagio WPT was Gus Hansen, John Juanda, Freddy Deeb, and John Hennigan. That said, this tournament totally ruled, and I'm not saying either of the above are decisively better. They just come to mind.
istewart
10-04-2005, 10:22 PM
BTW.
Flack
Lederer
Ivey
Bloch
Is probably close.
Saddlepoint
10-04-2005, 10:34 PM
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BTW.
Flack
Lederer
Ivey
Bloch
Is probably close.
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What the [censored] did I just post? God, think for yourself. Christ.
Edit: Go burn a cross.
betgo
10-04-2005, 10:53 PM
As Sklansky pointed out in this forum, the initial field of 300 was very strong.
The short-handed format probably attracted and favored LAGs like Flack and Brunson.
It made a good show, not only all the big names, but Bunson not only won, he won fairly easily.
Nick709
10-04-2005, 11:02 PM
Hey BTW someone already said that ! Go light a crucifix on fire JEEZ!
MonkeeMan
10-05-2005, 01:52 AM
Let's not forget #6 was Jason Lester.
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BTW.
Flack
Lederer
Ivey
Bloch
Is probably close.
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No way, do you see why?
Bloch - Main Event Wins: 0
Bracelets: 0
Top WSOP finish: 5th
Top WSOP cashout: $18K
Top other cashout: $167K
Ivey - Main Event Wins: 0
Bracelets: 5
Top WSOP cashout: $635K
Top other cashout: $500K
Lederer - Main Event Wins: 0
Bracelets: 2
Top WSOP cashout: $198K
Top other cashout: $339K
Ly - Main Event Wins: 0
Bracelets: 0
Top WSOP finish: 2nd
Top WSOP cashout: $304K
Top other cashout: $40K
Brunson - Main Event Wins: 2
Bracelets: 10
Top WSOP cashout: $367K
Top other cashout: $1,198K
Nguyen - Main Event Wins: 1
Bracelets: 4
Top WSOP cashout: $1,000K
Top other cashout: $336K
Andy Bloch is out of his league in this company.
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Lederer - Main Event Wins: 0
Bracelets: 2
Top WSOP cashout: $198K
Top other cashout: $339K
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The first televised poker I ever saw was Howard taking down a flat million on the Party Poker cruise.
Colonel Kataffy
10-05-2005, 02:12 AM
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Bloch - Main Event Wins: 0
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Ivey - Main Event Wins: 0
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Lederer - Main Event Wins: 0
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This is a stupid basis for your argument. Do you see why?
Aceshigh7
10-05-2005, 02:13 AM
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Lederer - Main Event Wins: 0
Bracelets: 2
Top WSOP cashout: $198K
Top other cashout: $339K
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The first televised poker I ever saw was Howard taking down a flat million on the Party Poker cruise.
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The overall prize pool was a million. Lederer actually won $263,850 for winning the PPMII.
KDawgCometh
10-05-2005, 02:14 AM
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Lederer - Main Event Wins: 0
Bracelets: 2
Top WSOP cashout: $198K
Top other cashout: $339K
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The first televised poker I ever saw was Howard taking down a flat million on the Party Poker cruise.
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no, it was like 280K that he took down in the PPM2
MonkeeMan
10-05-2005, 02:48 AM
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Bloch - Main Event Wins: 0
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Ivey - Main Event Wins: 0
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Lederer - Main Event Wins: 0
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This is a stupid basis for your argument. Do you see why?
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Is this a smarter basis?
Top Main Event Finishes:
Bloch - off the board
Ivey - 10, 20, 23
Lederer - 5, 19, 133
Ly - 9, 19
Brunson - 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 16, 53
Nguyen - 1, 18
I repeat: Andy Block makes it too easy to dismiss that group. He's seems like a nice guy, but he needs more credentials than a Full Tilt jersey.
bugstud
10-05-2005, 03:21 AM
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Bloch - Main Event Wins: 0
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Ivey - Main Event Wins: 0
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Lederer - Main Event Wins: 0
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This is a stupid basis for your argument. Do you see why?
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Is this a smarter basis?
Top Main Event Finishes:
Bloch - off the board
Ivey - 10, 20, 23
Lederer - 5, 19, 133
Ly - 9, 19
Brunson - 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 16, 53
Nguyen - 1, 18
I repeat: Andy Block makes it too easy to dismiss that group. He's seems like a nice guy, but he needs more credentials than a Full Tilt jersey.
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take all these guys back to when brunson could dominate and they'd have more padded careers too.
FakeKramer
10-05-2005, 03:23 AM
I really liked the Lederer/Flack/Bloch/Ivey match up on the WPT from a while back.
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TheHip41
10-05-2005, 04:30 AM
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Best show ever. You've gotta love Layne Flack goofing on Doyle while getting owned by him. Not even ESPN could ruin this one.
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If by owned you mean constantly sucking out on him, then yes, Doyle sure did own him repeatedly.
-Skeme-
10-05-2005, 04:32 AM
Layne is indeed drunk, right?
johnnybeef
10-05-2005, 04:41 AM
"Welcome to the jungle baby"
I was just told by a friend what the greatest final four ever was. He says it happened in the mid-1990s at the main event of the Four Queens tournament.
Chip Reese
T.J. Cloutier
Erik Seidel
Doyle Brunson
Does anyone have a link to this tournament? What year was it exactly?
Beavis68
10-05-2005, 11:42 AM
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Bloch - Main Event Wins: 0
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Ivey - Main Event Wins: 0
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Lederer - Main Event Wins: 0
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This is a stupid basis for your argument. Do you see why?
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It wasn't the basis for his arguement, it was a part of the comparison. Ivey has no main event wins, but he has 5 bracelets in other events.
Andy Bloch is a hack.
Your Mom
10-06-2005, 10:47 AM
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Layne is indeed drunk, right?
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According to a reporter that extensively covered the WSOP, Layne didn't drink one thing containing alcohol in the entire month at the tables.
he made beer ice cubes and swallowed them, effectively "eating" alcohol, not drinking it.
TheBlueMonster
10-06-2005, 12:42 PM
1996 Queens classic:
Doyle Brunson
Eric Seidel
Chip Reese
TJ Cloutier
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Layne is indeed drunk, right?
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As far as I know he's a recovering alcoholic, so I would hope not.
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