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DVO
10-03-2005, 02:27 PM
This hand was the source of controversy / discussion for two hours afterward. I wasn't involved. Here's what happened.

Guy in EP ( ~$515) opens for $25.
MP woman ( ~$600) calls.
LP calls.

I had only been at the table for 30 minutes, and my early impression was that they ( EP & MP) were both decent players, both fairly TAG. I suspect they viewed each as TAG's at the time as well.

3 see the flop. Pot ~$80.

Jd-6c-9d

EP bets $90. MP calls. Lp folds.

Pot ~$260.

Turn 4d. Board JT64, 3 diamonds.

EP bets $200, MP calls.

Pot ~$660.

River a blank, like 2c.

EP checks. MP puts him in for his last $200. He's getting almost 9/2 on the call.

EP goes into tank, then shows black JJ and tries to gauge her response. She responds by turning over one card, the 6 diamonds, then walking over to her friend/boyfriend? in seat 7 and giving him a victory hug. After a while, she calls the clock, and EP finally folds . She didn't show her other card.

The table was split over whether she had the flush or 66.

EP explained later he felt she had the flush, as she would have protected her set at some point with a raise.


Interested in other's thoughts on his read. What would you do?

Also, my inclination, without any previous hand experience with this woman, would be to make my decision based on her betting patterns, not the showing of the 6d / victory hug etc.

I don't play live much an am interested in other comments on 1) his laydown and 2) how you interpret the showing of the 6d.

PS how do you drag the suit icons into the text?

10-03-2005, 02:31 PM
I was at the MGM this weekend... the lady in question... is she middle aged and wore some goodddy looking jewelry / clothes?

If this describes her... she was definately on a set of 6's and tried to buy her way out by showing the 6 of diamonds. If she had the flush she would be praying for a call.

flawless_victory
10-03-2005, 02:36 PM
i dont know about these shenanigans, but check/folding this river is quite horrible... once he bets half his money on fourth, its allin.

DVO
10-03-2005, 02:40 PM
You guys are killing me with the 'middle aged' stuff. She looked about 30 to me.

I was the middle aged guy who, just prior to the hand in question, stacked her when i flopped a set of Jacks. That was nice. I think she had QQ that hand. You are??

10-03-2005, 03:52 PM
Easy call.

Making tough laydowns when getting 9/2 is not winning play here regardless of whether she had flush or mid set.

Maulik
10-03-2005, 04:43 PM
easy call, yes.

what is she calling here with 66 or 67s, I couldn't imagine much else.

Big_Jim
10-03-2005, 09:13 PM
"PS how do you drag the suit icons into the text?"

With UBBCode on....
:club: = club

I think you can figure out the rest.