POLL: are you a winner or a loser? [Archive] - Two Plus Two Older Archives

DMBFan23

10-03-2005, 01:27 AM

FACT: a two plus two poster, particualrly a strategy forum poster, is less likely to be a loser than the average player

timprov

10-03-2005, 01:39 AM

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FACT: a two plus two poster, particualrly a strategy forum poster, is less likely to lose money at poker than the average player

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FYP.

JKratzer

10-03-2005, 01:42 AM

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FACT: a two plus two poster, particualrly a strategy forum poster, is less likely to lose money at poker than the average player

FYP.

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nh

DMBFan23

10-03-2005, 01:52 AM

touche. very nice.

tonypaladino

10-03-2005, 03:23 AM

You forgot the "polls suck" option

Schneids

10-03-2005, 06:00 AM

May as well make this post suck less... A few of these guys are probably losers. A few of them are actually winners:

http://www.mtmtechnologies.net/biglosers.JPG

Evan

10-03-2005, 07:43 AM

Did you draw individual black boxes over each of the player names?

daryn

10-03-2005, 08:06 AM

clearly he did.... in ms paint... with the smallest pencil possible

Yeti

10-03-2005, 08:45 AM

What is the point of this post?

Serious question.

Vavavoom

10-03-2005, 10:14 AM

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in 2005: is your total net poker cash results positive or negative?

FACT: 3 of 4 players are losers.

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1. You are on a poker forum...
2. This is one of the better forums...
3. Your audience has a massive flaw...

4. I'm up $8500 this year.....I play part time..

benkath1

10-03-2005, 10:19 AM

Up about $3000 from poker add another $2000 from various bonuses.

10-03-2005, 10:45 AM

This year I am up a few thousand.

LAST year on the other hand, prior to reading any books and basically just going by what I "thought" was correct, I lost maybe $700.

B Dids

10-03-2005, 10:52 AM

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FACT: 3 of 4 players are losers.

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FACT: We're the reason why.

Python49

10-03-2005, 11:10 AM

nh sir

sthief09

10-03-2005, 12:15 PM

93% claim to be winners! that is not possible! 68% of people are liars!

Guthrie

10-03-2005, 03:20 PM

FACT: 3 out of 4 polls suck.

10-03-2005, 03:27 PM

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chrisg

10-03-2005, 05:04 PM

Feel better about my small losses now.

imported_CaseClosed326

10-03-2005, 06:21 PM

I think losing 13k in 13 hands would put me on tilt.

tolbiny

10-03-2005, 06:33 PM

come on kent, you can use statistics to prove anything. 17% of all people know that.

B Dids

10-03-2005, 06:48 PM

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I think losing 13k in 13 hands would put me on tilt.

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For real.

You just made me notice this.

There has to be a story here.

SomethingClever

10-03-2005, 07:01 PM

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I think losing 13k in 13 hands would put me on tilt.

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For real.

You just made me notice this.

There has to be a story here.

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Holy fck!

Money laundering?

TexArcher

10-03-2005, 10:46 PM

I will say that I'm not up nearly as much as I'd like this year, but anyone who's taken it seriously and studied should be able to tool the casual players.

I have no problem with the "3/4 of poker players are losers" thing, especially if you consider that 9/10 of people are either stupid or lazy...

NLSoldier

10-03-2005, 10:53 PM

More than 3/4 players are losing. I think close to 3/4 2+2ers are losing.

ggbman

10-03-2005, 11:14 PM

Everyone needs to lighten up, these posts are awesome. I am up for 2005, and i also have a big penis just in case ou wanted to know.

10-03-2005, 11:21 PM

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Never had the best poker face. However, I love to bet! Haha* sure shot recipe for living in a box in the near future! lol

[urx=http://www.casinozone.com]www.casinozone.com[/url]

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Sniff, sniff, sniff. <----sound of my dog when he's on the trail of SPAM

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10-03-2005, 11:22 PM

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FACT: 3 of 4 players are losers.

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FACT: We're the reason why.

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Priceless
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Schneids

10-03-2005, 11:29 PM

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I think losing 13k in 13 hands would put me on tilt.

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For real.

You just made me notice this.

There has to be a story here.

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Holy fck!

Money laundering?

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No real story. Just a 22BB hit in 13 hands. Can happen in aggressive games if you're playing a lot of hands and never winning, which seemed to be the case here. It's probably only 13 hands because the game probably broke after 13 hands because, and just a guess, but a certain _fish_ at 300/600 won some pots off this guy then left because he usually leaves the table if he goes on a nice run and wins some money.

DMBFan23

10-03-2005, 11:45 PM

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More than 3/4 players are losing. I think close to 3/4 2+2ers are losing.

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Soldier,

since it seems this discussion comes up a lot on 2+2, do you feel this applies to the 30K+ registered members, or strat forum posters, or regular posters in all forums, or...?

JacksonTens

10-03-2005, 11:49 PM

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More than 3/4 players are losing. I think close to 3/4 2+2ers are losing.

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Improbable. Perhaps if you include the casuals. In no way could all the strategy posters be down. My guess is 9/10 or more are up for sure.

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Python49

10-04-2005, 01:41 AM

http://jupiter.walagata.com/w/python49/13hands.gif

timprov

10-04-2005, 02:40 AM

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More than 3/4 players are losing. I think close to 3/4 2+2ers are losing.

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Mm, if you're informed at all, losing money at online poker isn't the easiest thing in the world, even if they're dropping it in the game itself. I would guess most losing players at 2+2 are small losers, apart from a few like Brown Thumb; small enough that the losses can be made up and surpassed through whoring.

Schneids

10-04-2005, 02:43 AM

That's a good guess and it's possible though I'm not sure. BBuddy is one of the many Norwegians who always changes account names and shares accounts sometimes, so, it is very possible that guy could have been him but I really have no idea if it was or not since it's tough to keep track of who is who and that person happens to be a relatively new player name.

SteamingFish

10-04-2005, 02:55 AM

Those stats are absolutely shocking. Were they heads up or something? How are their VP$IPs so insanely high over so many hands? I mean, Jeez!

Schneids

10-04-2005, 02:57 AM

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Those stats are absolutely shocking. Were they heads up or something? How are their VP$IPs so insanely high over so many hands? I mean, Jeez!

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I play lots of short handed. Some of them are legit, ok VPIP stats (ie playing lots of 2-4 handed with them), while yes, a few of them just play too many hands.

daryn

10-04-2005, 06:09 AM

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More than 3/4 players are losing. I think close to 3/4 2+2ers are losing.

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Mm, if you're informed at all, losing money at online poker isn't the easiest thing in the world, even if they're dropping it in the game itself. I would guess most losing players at 2+2 are small losers, apart from a few like Brown Thumb; small enough that the losses can be made up and surpassed through whoring.

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you're so wrong that i want to hurl an insult at you, but i will hold back

B Dids

10-04-2005, 10:47 AM

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More than 3/4 players are losing. I think close to 3/4 2+2ers are losing.

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Define "losing" and define "2+2er"

I think people that are regged on 2+2 maybe, but in terms of people making regular contributions to the strat forums, I'd be shocked if 75% were losing. Some may be winning at small limits, and would be losing higher.

SomethingClever

10-04-2005, 11:40 AM

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No real story. Just a 22BB hit in 13 hands. Can happen in aggressive games if you're playing a lot of hands and never winning, which seemed to be the case here. It's probably only 13 hands because the game probably broke after 13 hands because, and just a guess, but a certain _fish_ at 300/600 won some pots off this guy then left because he usually leaves the table if he goes on a nice run and wins some money.

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Ah, see I thought this was at something like 50/100. That would be absurd.

chadplusplus

10-04-2005, 05:03 PM

Thank God this was limited to 2005 - that allowed me to answer honestly /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

smb394

10-04-2005, 06:05 PM

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More than 3/4 players are losing. I think close to 3/4 2+2ers are losing.

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Define "losing" and define "2+2er"

I think people that are regged on 2+2 maybe, but in terms of people making regular contributions to the strat forums, I'd be shocked if 75% were losing. Some may be winning at small limits, and would be losing higher.

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I think this bolded part is key. I win at small stakes, but I probably would not win at 5-10 6max or higher than that at this point.

wonkadaddy

10-04-2005, 07:39 PM

there are also people on here that have probably built up small bankrolls and then blown them in one drunken high-stakes tilt fest. so they might consider themselves winners as they've consistently won for 3 mos, 6 mos, whatever, even tho technically they're not.

also, there are probably folks here that may win marginally at their best game, but are overall losers. seems like a lot of folks don't out and out lie about their results (although some do) they just rationalize how to put things in the best light. still, i wouldn't be surprised if over half the significant posters here are winners, although i doubt it's anywhere close to 90%.