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Nick C
10-02-2005, 07:28 AM
After I got called in all three places on the flop, I thought maybe it'd be a good time to go for one of the turn checkraises described in HPFAP on pages 141-3. And I'm wondering whether or not I picked a good spot.

UTG+2 and MP2 are both very loose.

UTG+2 is 71/10/1.5 after 180 hands and has a tendency to bet when checked to.

MP2 is 55/13/0.7 after 106 hands. Also, he likes to limp-reraise (though he didn't during this hand).

I didn't have much of a read on BB, but his stats are 11/0/0.9 after 35 hands, for what it's worth.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks . . .

What do you think?

private joker
10-02-2005, 07:30 AM
Sure. A fine time for a screwplay in my opinion.

lautzutao
10-02-2005, 07:34 AM
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Sure. A fine time for a screwplay in my opinion.

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DMBFan23
10-02-2005, 09:51 AM
you so obviously have AK, and on that board someone is a favorite to have a pair, so yeah it'll get bet enough to make this cool IMO. if it goes bet-raise, how do you rank your three options?

Redd
10-02-2005, 11:09 AM
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you so obviously have AK, and on that board someone is a favorite to have a pair, so yeah it'll get bet enough to make this cool IMO. if it goes bet-raise, how do you rank your three options?

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I still wouldn't be willing to give either the bettor or the raisor credit for a better hand after my check, so probably 3-bet&gt;call&gt;fold?

Erik W
10-02-2005, 11:15 AM
I save that play when I am against 1-2 opponents, u have too much value here against 3.

Nick C
10-02-2005, 06:55 PM
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you so obviously have AK, and on that board someone is a favorite to have a pair, so yeah it'll get bet enough to make this cool IMO. if it goes bet-raise, how do you rank your three options?

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I started wondering about that when BB led the turn. I was thinking I'd at least call but probably 3-bet instead. It didn't come to that, though.

Actually, I was a little bit surprised at how the hand played out:

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls.

River: (13 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 14 BB

By the way, I like your location. I'm glad to see you're playing 10/20 now.

brazilio
10-02-2005, 06:57 PM
I do this often, and I /images/graemlins/heart.gif it almost as much as I /images/graemlins/heart.gif river checkraises.

brettbrettr
10-02-2005, 08:03 PM
I do this a lot and I don't think its bad.

brettbrettr
10-02-2005, 08:04 PM
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I do this often, and I /images/graemlins/heart.gif it almost as much as I /images/graemlins/heart.gif river checkraises.

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Smart.