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Akimka
10-01-2005, 07:37 PM
No reads (2nd hand).

What's hero standard river play?
Rest of hand is OK?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. UTG+1 posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero should ????
MrWookie47
10-01-2005, 07:42 PM
No reads? Yuck. I'd probably call and hate myself. For the early streets, I'm torn between just leading the flop (probably 3betting, but I"m not sure) and taking your line.
Akimka
10-01-2005, 07:49 PM
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No reads? Yuck. I'd probably call and hate myself.

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Will villain showdown JJ often enough to make it EV+? I thought about this hand but can't imagine what possible hand villain can have (that I can beat). May be there exist some and I just can't see them?
Brain
10-01-2005, 07:51 PM
Call and beat my head against the desk when I lose. The only PF cappable hand you're beating is JJ. I think you're behind/tied when you get 3bet on the flop. Given this reasoning, I suppose you could fold the turn, but that's up to you.
MrWookie47
10-01-2005, 07:53 PM
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No reads? Yuck. I'd probably call and hate myself.

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Will villain showdown JJ often enough to make it EV+? I thought about this hand but can't imagine what possible hand villain can have (that I can beat). May be there exist some and I just can't see them?

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I hate myself because calling is -EV, but I did it anyways. I think there's a reasonable chance of donking with AK, AQ or JJ on the turn that I'll want to see the river, but you're almost certainly toast on that river.
Akimka
10-01-2005, 07:55 PM
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I think you're behind/tied when you get 3bet on the flop. Given this reasoning, I suppose you could fold the turn, but that's up to you.

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AQ can play this way... May be AK either. Don't think so?
MrWookie47
10-01-2005, 07:58 PM
I think 1 time in 5 is a fairly reasonable estimate for being ahead, and that's enough to call down
milesdyson
10-01-2005, 08:10 PM
??????????????????

you could only fold the river by folding the turn

and my first instinct is to check call this flop
Brain
10-01-2005, 08:18 PM
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I think you're behind/tied when you get 3bet on the flop. Given this reasoning, I suppose you could fold the turn, but that's up to you.

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AQ can play this way... May be AK either. Don't think so?

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I wouldn't put AQ on capping preflop, but perhaps. There's less of a chance of AK since you hold two of the kings.