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jaxUp
10-01-2005, 06:45 PM
As I'm sure most people know, setting goals for yourself is a good way of motivating yourself to accomplish something that you want to. That said, there are a few guidelines that you should follow when you're making poker-related goal

Never to make a $$ related goal. Because poker is such a long term game, you are sometimes just not able to win as much as you would like in a given time frame. I have gone through multiple 200BB downswings, and really there's not much you can do about it. So try to make goals pertaining to the number of hands you want to play if you want this kind of a goal. What I do is guess what my winrate is, figure out how much money I want to make, and then make my goal to play however many hands it will take me to win that much. But once you have done this, FORGET ABOUT THE MONEY. Your only concern must now become getting the hands in. I think that hands goals are usually the most important ones (at least for me) so everybody should have one.

There are a few other goals that I see that you should consider making.

1) Reading goals: Self-explanatory. Pick a poker pook or two that you need to (re)read. This type of goal is especially helpful for n00bs, anybody looking to expand their knowledge, or anybody who is lacking confidence.

2) Moving up goals: These are not too common, as moving up depends on a few things such as confidence, bankroll and exerience. These goals are not a good idea for too many players. They are best left to veteran players who have a very good idea where they are in their game, and what it's going to take to hit the next level.

3) Specific game aspect goals: These are goals that focus on a specific aspect of the game. An example of these would be working on isolating loose raisers, hand-reading, or calculating pot odds. These types of goals are a good idea for everybody and can be tied in nicely with the reading goals.

4) non-poker goals: These are (can you guess?) goals that are not related to poker. Some non-poker goals include banging at least 3 bitches, reading a non-poker related book, or challenging somebdy who pwned you in a LL sidebet to some sort of rematch.

Let me know if I left anything out, and good luck making your goals

jaxUp
10-01-2005, 06:58 PM
My goals are:

Take a shot at 5/10 6max after 4k more hands of 3/6 and at least 400 BB in my account

Play 5k hands/week when playing 3/6, 3500 hands/week if the majority of the time it's at 5/10

re-read HPFAP and take the time to actually digest everything

I have noticed that my stats when I'm 2-tabling are much better than when I 4-table. I am going to try and focus more when 4-tabling and get back to some basic hand reading and adaptation. If I am not able to do this, I will remove 1 or 2 tables (though I'll only be 2-tabling when I move to 5/10 anyways).

change my [censored] avatar

go and completely destroy the 2/5 game at Brantford for my friends's 19th

MrWookie47
10-01-2005, 07:02 PM
Awesome, dude. This is even better than what I had in mind when I mentioned starting a goals thread in the NC thread.

My goals:

1. Buy and begin reading King Yao's book.
2. 10k hands of 3/6 6 max
3. Spend time reviewing at least 400 hands of my own per week. I don't review my own play nearly enough, and I tend to only review hands that bugged me. I need to go looking for errors not only in the expected places.
4. Pwn the MLL.
5. Figure out what to do with the two friends who both want to do me, with whom I'm only about 10% to get away with doing both, and whose friendship I'd rather not be responsible for breaking.

Edit: I had asked for your goals, and then you posted them while I finished my reply. No longer necessary.

Sightless
10-01-2005, 07:05 PM
1. take the 50 dollars that i have on my PP Acount and try to build a bankroll for 1/2 ):

silkyslim
10-01-2005, 07:06 PM
my goals are:
1) to finish TOP and inside poker mind
2) play 80 hours at least
3) pwn 3/6 and stay there
4) clear some juicy bonuses
5) make 300 posts

cold_cash
10-01-2005, 07:11 PM
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Awesome.

jaxUp
10-01-2005, 07:13 PM
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Buy and begin reading King Yao's book.

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Is this a poker book? If so, what's it called, and what does it cover?

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Spend time reviewing at least 400 hands of my own per week. I don't review my own play nearly enough, and I tend to only review hands that bugged me. I need to go looking for errors not only in the expected places.

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This is a great goal. I will be doing the same.

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Figure out what to do with the two friends who both want to do me, with whom I'm only about 10% to get away with doing both, and whose friendship I'd rather not be responsible for breaking.


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The only answer is to do both at the same time. That way they both get what they want and it becomes a bonding experience for them.

Student Caine
10-01-2005, 07:21 PM
1) Read TOP, which I just got, and actually take the time to compare the information in the book to my own play and well I am or am not doing in relation to each topic.

2) Get my bankroll healthy again and move back to 1/2.

3) See where I am losing value when I have made hands or big draws. Recently, I have only been reviewing the sessions where I was a big loser. I need to look at the rest of the sessions to see where I missed value, which would have lessened the blow of my recent downslide.

4) Get my blog set up (my little brother has been pushing me to do this for months).

Finish re-watching Okamoto's "The Sword of Doom" and write a blog entry that discusses the symbolism used throughout the film as well as an entry that discusses Ryunosuke's motivation and whether or not he is in fact "evil".

jaxUp
10-01-2005, 07:21 PM
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Awesome, dude. This is even better than what I had in mind when I mentioned starting a goals thread in the NC thread.



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Well, I wasted my pooh-bah post putting a $5 bounty on shill, so I thought I'd actually contribute something for once.

Brain
10-01-2005, 07:30 PM
Excellent post.

1. Play 60 hours.
I've been really slacking lately. I need to get back on the horse after I withdrew everything in my online accounts in July after two horrendous nights in a row. I didn't play much in August and September was a big negative month of running bad.

2. Get King Yao's book.
I saw somebody mention it in HUSH and it looks like it would help.

3. Figure out how to pass my last graduate class.

4. Learn more about lifting and stick to my gym schedule.

5. Stop being so lazy and just watching football on Saturdays and Sundays.

6. Post more replys and stop being afraid to be wrong and look dumb.

Brain
10-01-2005, 07:36 PM
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Buy and begin reading King Yao's book.

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Is this a poker book? If so, what's it called, and what does it cover?


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King Yao's Weighing the Odds in Hold'Em Poker (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0935926259/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_1/102-6136108-0812150)

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Figure out what to do with the two friends who both want to do me, with whom I'm only about 10% to get away with doing both, and whose friendship I'd rather not be responsible for breaking.


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The only answer is to do both at the same time. That way they both get what they want and it becomes a bonding experience for them.

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This is clearly the right answer. I'm debating giving up on the very hot, slightly older woman that I've been trying to see since she's always been out of town on business when I've asked about getting together and doesn't suggest anything to me. (Yes, she's really out of town, we have mutual friends in the industry).

MrWookie47
10-01-2005, 07:39 PM
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Buy and begin reading King Yao's book.

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Is this a poker book? If so, what's it called, and what does it cover?

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Here is the book. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0935926259/qid=1128209508/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-5655525-3067031?v=glance&s=books) It has been highly recommended by other 2+2ers as a good second view, and for it's short handed section.

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Figure out what to do with the two friends who both want to do me, with whom I'm only about 10% to get away with doing both, and whose friendship I'd rather not be responsible for breaking.


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The only answer is to do both at the same time. That way they both get what they want and it becomes a bonding experience for them.

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To think that this hasn't crossed my mind severely underestimates my male-ness. The odd thing is that, while under most circumstances the best case scenario coming to be is even less likely than getting to do both of them separately, there's a very good chance one of the friends would be down for it. Unfortunately, the second friend probably wouldn't. And the second friend is the hot one.

Brain
10-01-2005, 07:41 PM
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Figure out what to do with the two friends who both want to do me, with whom I'm only about 10% to get away with doing both, and whose friendship I'd rather not be responsible for breaking.


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The only answer is to do both at the same time. That way they both get what they want and it becomes a bonding experience for them.

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To think that this hasn't crossed my mind severely underestimates my male-ness. The odd thing is that, while under most circumstances the best case scenario coming to be is even less likely than getting to do both of them separately, there's a very good chance one of the friends would be down for it. Unfortunately, the second friend probably wouldn't. And the second friend is the hot one.

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Isn't this always the case? /images/graemlins/frown.gif

POKhER
10-01-2005, 07:59 PM
Reading/Revision wise

- Read SSH, Re-Read SSH confirming all chapters are learnt, Fix all other leaks i wrote down previously on paper.

- Review PT hands(All losing ones).


Poker In general
- get another 5k at .50/1
- Increase bankroll to atleast $1000
- Move up to $1/2 if comfortable

Non poker
Drive my car more,
Sleep with this girl i fancy,
Study hard daily.

milesdyson
10-01-2005, 08:18 PM
my goals:

- move up to 0.5/1 by halloween.
- buy pokertracker
- learn to play MAG style (masturAGGRO)

jaxUp
10-01-2005, 08:21 PM
Can you please give me a breakdown of the different styles again and what they mean? Thanks.

- a noob

benkath1
10-01-2005, 08:27 PM
1. Absorb the Psychology of Poker.

2. Play 10K hands of 1/2 6 max and learn the game, while bonus whoring. If I feel comfortable, move up to 2/4 6 max. I guess at stars, which I don't like cause of no ****back.

3. As for game aspect, pwn 6 max.

4. My non poker goal is to go back to work. Maybe do a few casino bonuses. Check back on this thread once a week to remind myself I set goals and to make sure I meet them.

10-01-2005, 08:27 PM
1. Work at understand odd better, and get better at calculating them
2. reread SSH, and read TOP (just for fun, maybe pick up a few tips).
3. Figure out how to really use PokerTracker (any good tutorials on the net?)
4. Become a bonus whore
5. Get a freaking advatar

10-01-2005, 08:45 PM
1. Finish reading TOP and reread SSH
2. 5K hands at .25/.50
3. Start to calcualte Pot odds. I dont even give these a second thought when factoring in decisions.
4. Start posting here more. Lurked for about a month and now need to start contributing.

10-01-2005, 09:14 PM
-Finish reading TOP and re-read SSHE...buy HPFAP for next month's reading goal.
-Get a working understanding of implied odds/reverse implied odds/pot equity and utilize that in my game.
-Keep better and more detailed records including variance.
-Improve my self-discipline to avoid going on tilt/acting out of anger
-Clear at least four good bonuses
-Take that three day backpacking/fly fishing trip I've been thinking of.
-Check back here in 30 days to see how I did...

Greg J
10-01-2005, 09:15 PM
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Sleep with this girl i fancy,

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This sentence totally contradicts itself. Do you see why?

Greg J
10-01-2005, 09:17 PM
My wife wants me to ban you because she says yr avatar is discusting.

Wally Weeks
10-01-2005, 09:18 PM
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- learn to play MAG style (masturAGGRO)

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i cut a hole in my pants so i can play this style both live and online.

Greg J
10-01-2005, 09:19 PM
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3. Figure out how to really use PokerTracker (any good tutorials on the net?)

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The pokertracker forums are really quite good. You just need to lurk a while.

2+2 wannabe
10-01-2005, 09:50 PM
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my goals:

- move up to 0.5/1 by halloween.
- buy pokertracker

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seriously?

I thought you were a 2/4 or higher player

milesdyson
10-01-2005, 10:07 PM
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my goals:

- move up to 0.5/1 by halloween.
- buy pokertracker

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seriously?

I thought you were a 2/4 or higher player

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i moved up from 0.05/0.10 to 0.25/0.50 a while ago, but since i forbid myself from moving up without 1500 BB at a limit, i move up slowly.

irishpint
10-01-2005, 10:23 PM
-learn to play poker
-find out why diet dr pepper tastes just like regular DP. seriously, how DO they do that?

trainslayer
10-01-2005, 10:24 PM
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my goals:

- move up to 0.5/1 by halloween.
- buy pokertracker

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seriously?

I thought you were a 2/4 or higher player

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me either too. i'm flaburgasted if it's so.

1. Rereread sshe and try to understand it this time. (rest of year goal)
2. Read WTOIH. (ordered it two days ago.)
3. Lose another 15 lbs. (21 last month.)
4. Get my fat ass back on my bicycle. (been about 2 years)

Paradigm
10-01-2005, 10:37 PM
my goals are quite simple: to play 100-200 hands every two days, and learn about PT. tough to play a lot when i'm handling the rigors of class, but those are my modest goals.

Reqtech
10-01-2005, 11:06 PM
1) I have a copy of ToP that I still haven't finished. Will work on finishing that.

2) I'll be leaving 1/2 6-max shortly. I've moved up before, but instead bought myself a new laptop with a portion of my BR, and am ready (bankrolled) to move up.
(any suggestions on a good place to play 2/4 6-max? /images/graemlins/smile.gif )

3) I need to start utilizing PT for post session analysis. I'm sure that there is a bunch of leaks that I have which would be easily plugged if I just spent the time to WORK on my game.

4) Determine and implement organizational strategies to hopefully make my life a little less eratic feeling. Finish reading Getting Things Done and actually work on using somet of the strategies.

10-02-2005, 12:08 AM
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my goals:

- move up to 0.5/1 by halloween.
- buy pokertracker

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seriously?

I thought you were a 2/4 or higher player

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i moved up from 0.05/0.10 to 0.25/0.50 a while ago, but since i forbid myself from moving up without 1500 BB at a limit, i move up slowly.

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I just ran these calculations (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=207170&page=0&vc=1) to figure out my BR:

At SD=6.995/hr & @1.6BB/hr, with a 0.01% (10000:1) risk of ruin, my bankroll should be 140.83 BB. I figure you can do these in BB/100 as well.

I imagine if you plug your numbers into the inverse formula, your risk of ruin will be something like parts per billion. So does this have to do more with moving up than having a decent BR?

milesdyson
10-02-2005, 12:12 AM
i am kidding mang, but honestly i have played a thousand or so 0.5/1 hands recently because i took out my bankroll to go to europe during summer. i am slowly adding money into my poker accounts again, getting through bonuses, etc.

my goal for the month of october is to get another bonus and get enough money online to at least get back into 1/2. i was at 2/4 before i went to europe, and i'm getting back into the swing of things.

Aaron W.
10-02-2005, 12:57 AM
1) Not get pwned playing heads up matches against thinking players.
2) Get $600 to start playing stud.
3) Maintain a 9+ BB/100 at the beginner tables over the 45 days allowed /images/graemlins/grin.gif. (2403 hands, 10.5 BB/100 -- I get a couple hundred hands every two or three days and I've got until the middle of the month.)

jaxUp
10-02-2005, 01:00 AM
u get 45 days? That could be like 35k hands. God I wish I waited to sign up with party

PokerSparky
10-02-2005, 01:06 AM
1. Finish reading Weighing the Odds in Holdem Poker.
2. Play 4000 hands of 1/2 6 max.
3. Play 10000 hands of 2/4 and 3/6 full ring.
4. Spend less time at this forumn, and more time working on my thesis.
5. Finish my spec. television pilot by Oct. 20.

imported_CaseClosed326
10-02-2005, 01:16 AM
[censored] real goals

1) Have some fun
2) make some cash
3) get laid

Brain
10-02-2005, 01:19 AM
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-find out why diet dr pepper tastes just like regular DP. seriously, how DO they do that?

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Ask CaseClosed326. He might know.

imported_CaseClosed326
10-02-2005, 01:25 AM
Sorry, I don't drink normal Dr. Pepper. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

MrWookie47
10-02-2005, 01:34 AM
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1) I have a copy of ToP that I still haven't finished. Will work on finishing that.

2) I'll be leaving 1/2 6-max shortly. I've moved up before, but instead bought myself a new laptop with a portion of my BR, and am ready (bankrolled) to move up.
(any suggestions on a good place to play 2/4 6-max? /images/graemlins/smile.gif )

3) I need to start utilizing PT for post session analysis. I'm sure that there is a bunch of leaks that I have which would be easily plugged if I just spent the time to WORK on my game.

4) Determine and implement organizational strategies to hopefully make my life a little less eratic feeling. Finish reading Getting Things Done and actually work on using somet of the strategies.

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I'd probably try Stars first for 2/4 6 max. Absolute is another option, but I'm not sure. I played about 10k hands at Absolute, and I found the games to be somewhat tough. Coupled with some nasty variance, it left a bad taste in my mouth. However, you can get a sweet ra****ck deal there, and the (virtually unlimited, moderately quickly clearing) bonus doesn't count against your MGR for it. I made much more in free money there than I did in actual poker winnings. You could also consider getting a few more BB at 1/2 and going to 3/6 6 max at Party, which I've found to be softer than Absolute or Stars 2/4.

pryor15
10-02-2005, 03:31 AM
i've been distracted lately by tourneys, which sort of drain my hourly rate....so my goals

1. stop playing tourneys (maybe still a couple)
2. get 20k-25k full ring 2/4 hands in
3. find at least 3 leaks and plug them.

non-poker
1. finish these 2 editing projects that i've been chipping away at forever.

10-02-2005, 07:29 AM
1. Browse SSHE about once a week. Read King Yao.
2. Get out of this damned country (Iraq) and get some ice cold, refreshing Miller Lite in my system.
3. "Re-integrate" myself with the ladies.
4. Finish building up 300BB br on .5/1 so I can move up to 1/2.
5. Post on here a lot, becuase I won't be able to play much this month (demobilizing).
6. Actually remember these goals.

POKhER
10-02-2005, 08:21 AM
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3) Maintain a 9+ BB/100 at the beginner tables over the 45 days allowed /images/graemlins/grin.gif. (2403 hands, 10.5 BB/100 -- I get a couple hundred hands every two or three days and I've got until the middle of the month.)

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If you keep that up, ill be impressed. Im at 1BB 3k /images/graemlins/grin.gif

lautzutao
10-02-2005, 08:42 AM
Missed my september Hand goals but my first 10k hands and I'm still up money so I'm happy.

October Goals:

1. Shoot for 5k hands of Omaha/8 and 5k hands of Holdem.
2. Reread TOP, SSHE, and King Yao
3. Pick up Ray Zee's Split High/Low Poker and read.
4. Get more of the "Te Tao Ching" tattooed on my body /images/graemlins/cool.gif
5. Win 20 MLL Heads-up matches

@bsolute_luck
10-02-2005, 08:45 AM
- build a new comp with poker winnings
- keep clearing Titan signup bonus
- win a HU match in the MLL

10-02-2005, 09:06 AM
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i moved up from 0.05/0.10 to 0.25/0.50 a while ago, but since i forbid myself from moving up without 1500 BB at a limit, i move up slowly.

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woohoo! long live the slow progression.
i play 0.25/0.50 online too, having worked up from 0.01/0.02 and set myself 750BB to move up. stupid thing is i play 3/6 live, but it's very soft.

As for goals:

1) Finish reading the copy of King Yao's Hold'em Brain my friend sent me.
2) Play ring a Foxwoods. (Coming to the USA in a week, so can check that one off the list).
3) Post a bit more in this forum.
4) Play at least 5k hands for the month.

car ramrod
10-02-2005, 10:06 AM
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i am kidding mang, but honestly i have played a thousand or so 0.5/1 hands recently because i took out my bankroll to go to europe during summer. i am slowly adding money into my poker accounts again, getting through bonuses, etc.

my goal for the month of october is to get another bonus and get enough money online to at least get back into 1/2. i was at 2/4 before i went to europe, and i'm getting back into the swing of things.


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I withdrew most of my bankroll in June to go to Europe. I got a lot of it back hitting up the casino bonuses, just a thought (ofcourse hitting a royal flush helped). There is some easy money to make if you got some extra time and don't mind playing black jack.
How was your trip? Mine was great and all paid for by poker (well most of it). /images/graemlins/grin.gif

car ramrod
10-02-2005, 10:21 AM
1. play at least 12K hands
2. Reread HEPFAP
3. finish TOP
4. Post a few of my hands I have trouble with
5. Continue to run good at 2/4 and play at least 5k at 3/6.
6. Run even better at 3/6
7. Focus more, play 3 tables w/ no tv or surfing
8. Take my girlfriend out more so she continues to put up with all my poker playing.
9. Teach my brother to play goot so I can get a 10% cut of his profits, he offered. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

damn thats a lot of goals.

numeri
10-02-2005, 11:10 AM
1) Keep building BR at 1/2.
2) Pay better attention. This may require playing 1 table to start and only opening a second when I have a good read on the first. (I play 6-max and only 2-table.)
3) Tilt less.
4) Learn some more passive lines vs. LAG players. I'm currently getting owned all too frequently.

EDIT: I'd also like to add some posting goals
5) Put more thought into my posts.
6) Reply to some difficult hands instead of just the easy ones.
7) Spend less time reading 2+2 when there's no interesting content. (Hours and hours... just gone. Damn you 2+2!)

Aaron W.
10-02-2005, 11:14 AM
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3) Maintain a 9+ BB/100 at the beginner tables over the 45 days allowed /images/graemlins/grin.gif. (2403 hands, 10.5 BB/100 -- I get a couple hundred hands every two or three days and I've got until the middle of the month.)

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If you keep that up, ill be impressed. Im at 1BB 3k /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Sometimes, you do well and it's not because of anything you've done right.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 7d 8d (two pair, sixes and threes).
Hero has Qs Tc (two pair, sixes and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins 7.50 BB. </font>

Deamon2
10-02-2005, 11:28 AM
My October Goals:

- Get out of 1/2 and take a shot at 2/4
- Start posting again because I haven't in a while
- keep pwning the party $50 PLO game
- cashout a fair amount of money to help me buy an '88 RX-7

I think those are fair. The most important one by far is to start posting again. I learned how to analyze my hands here, and I feel like I've been getting rusty.

Reqtech
10-02-2005, 06:31 PM
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1) I have a copy of ToP that I still haven't finished. Will work on finishing that.

2) I'll be leaving 1/2 6-max shortly. I've moved up before, but instead bought myself a new laptop with a portion of my BR, and am ready (bankrolled) to move up.
(any suggestions on a good place to play 2/4 6-max? /images/graemlins/smile.gif )

3) I need to start utilizing PT for post session analysis. I'm sure that there is a bunch of leaks that I have which would be easily plugged if I just spent the time to WORK on my game.

4) Determine and implement organizational strategies to hopefully make my life a little less eratic feeling. Finish reading Getting Things Done and actually work on using somet of the strategies.

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I'd probably try Stars first for 2/4 6 max. Absolute is another option, but I'm not sure. I played about 10k hands at Absolute, and I found the games to be somewhat tough. Coupled with some nasty variance, it left a bad taste in my mouth. However, you can get a sweet ra****ck deal there, and the (virtually unlimited, moderately quickly clearing) bonus doesn't count against your MGR for it. I made much more in free money there than I did in actual poker winnings. You could also consider getting a few more BB at 1/2 and going to 3/6 6 max at Party, which I've found to be softer than Absolute or Stars 2/4.

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I've already played about 1000 hands at PS 2/4 clearing their recent bonus (since playing at 1/2 is too slow for bonus clearing) and felt like I was playing well. But the stickler is that I don't get a [unmentionable] to fall back on there.

I already have an account at absolute, so I can't get rakeback there. I've considered playing there for the bonii as a cushion for my 2/4 lessons, though.

I almost have 300bb bankroll for 3/6 and I'm mentally "willing" to take the shot and move down if I hit a 100BB downswing...so maybe I should do that? I've been a 3BB/100 winner at 1/2 for about 25K hands, so I think I'm at least a decent player....and [unmentionable] can make up for my shortcomings.

Paxosmotic
10-02-2005, 06:36 PM
Learn how to play poker. I don't think I can accurately describe how badly I am playing lately.

Weatherhead03
10-02-2005, 06:41 PM
1)Play as many hands as possible

2)Finish TOP

3)Post a few more hands.

4)Get better at reviewing my sessions.

gonzopro
10-02-2005, 07:37 PM
September Goals:
1. Learn how to play shorthanded.
2. Beat a 6 max game (?1/2) over at least 5k hands (hopefully 10k)

Result:
Played 3k hands of horrible breakeven 1/2 full (well, +5BB excluding bonus money and RB) to clear some bonuses. Then I played 3k hands of 1/2 6max at +2BB/100.

October Goals:
1. Play 5k hands at 1/2 6max.
2. Review 100 hands at least 2 times a week.
3. Post one hand from each review session.
4. Stop busting my casino bonuses.
5. Study for a board exam on October 23rd.
6. Mentally get ready for 2/4.

irishpint
10-02-2005, 08:14 PM
1. cash out and quit poker

Paxosmotic
10-02-2005, 08:51 PM
[ QUOTE ]
1. cash out and quit poker

[/ QUOTE ]
Running that badly, or really giving it up?

Dunno
10-02-2005, 08:59 PM
if u get short of time skip the girltime /images/graemlins/wink.gif

tiltaholic
10-02-2005, 09:05 PM
oh so many. number one has to be:
learn to play poker again.

poker:

-stop bluffing into calling stations
-stop 4-tabling
-stop playing no limit and limit at the same time

non-poker:

-stop playing so much damn poker

Dunno
10-02-2005, 09:07 PM
Get a reall job and really cut down the computer time

irishpint
10-02-2005, 10:04 PM
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr />
1. cash out and quit poker

[/ QUOTE ]
Running that badly, or really giving it up?

[/ QUOTE ]

running badly. on sept 26th i cashed out a bunch of money and moved down to 1/2 6max from 3/6 6max so i could play more tables and more relaxed. instead i'm running at -4/bb over about 3k hands. not too long a strech but it sucks none the less.

Russ McGinley
10-02-2005, 10:08 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Learn how to play poker. I don't think I can accurately describe how badly I am playing lately.

[/ QUOTE ]

Duffman
10-02-2005, 10:11 PM
Get comfortable at 1/2, and build my BR.
Play at least 300 hands a day.
Pay attention more when playing.
Learn to read players better.
Re-read SSHE again. Get started on TOP.

10-02-2005, 10:27 PM
poker
1. finish some bonus whoring
2. move up to .5/1 with the appropriate BR
3. explore next book options (just finished TJ's today...not great..)
4. read &amp; respond to hand posts as time allows

non-poker
1. spend time with family
2. clean &amp; do repairs on old house before it closes title
3. eh catch up on work stuff

WalkAmongUs
10-02-2005, 10:28 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

3) Maintain a 9+ BB/100 at the beginner tables over the 45 days allowed /images/graemlins/grin.gif. (2403 hands, 10.5 BB/100 -- I get a couple hundred hands every two or three days and I've got until the middle of the month.)

[/ QUOTE ]

If you keep that up, ill be impressed. Im at 1BB 3k /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Do't know about 9BB but I'm runnin 6.6BB/100 over 11k hands at 1/2. I love these tables!!

Duerig
10-02-2005, 10:33 PM
poker

- 10k hands (including 6 max)

non poker

- do the damn thing

Buck_65
10-02-2005, 10:36 PM
Only 1 goal for me:

STOP TILTING AWAY 1+ BB/100.

tor
10-02-2005, 10:39 PM
My goals are
-to post at least 70 different hand reviews this month
-to finally finish up those last few chapters of SSH
-play 8 different heads up matches in the league.

ChuckyB
10-02-2005, 10:59 PM
My goals for October

- Finish re-reading SSHE
- Learn to dump AK, AQ (no matter how pretty is in when they are suited) when they don't hit the flop and there's action.
- Stop pushing A-high into the complete donkeys I run into at .50/1.00 6-max. Slap them with the good hands when I get them
- Before I make any move, stop and think about what my opponent has.

DCWildcat
10-03-2005, 01:05 AM
1. Get shadow back into poker

livinitup0
10-03-2005, 01:35 AM
Play 10K hands of .50/1 6max mixed with 1/26max for at least 2BB/100.

OrianasDaad
10-03-2005, 09:56 AM
Here's my list for October.

-1000 hands per "work day".

That's it.

car ramrod
10-03-2005, 10:01 AM
[ QUOTE ]
if u get short of time skip the girltime


[/ QUOTE ]

yea I gots my priorities straight. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Deamon2
10-03-2005, 10:10 AM
first setback - get stacked (200bb) AQsAKs vs KK74o allin preflop in $50 PLO. Gotta love losing 80/20's for an eighth of your roll.

so, 2/4 is probably off for october. I'll stick at 1/2 and see what happens

bozlax
10-03-2005, 10:59 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Unfortunately, the second friend probably wouldn't. And the second friend is the hot one.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, c'mon, is this really this hard for you kids? Jeebus!

Take both of them out to the bar. While Hot Friend is in the can/checking out the jukebox/whatever, present it to Non-Hot Friend as you've presented it to us, here, i.e. "I think both of you want to do me. I wanted to decide tonight, but I just can't. I want to do both of you but I don't want to ruin your friendship. I'd be down for the 2 on 1 if you two would be, but I don't know how to talk to Hot Friend about it, without risking offending her." Chicks dig the honesty thing.

Get her working for you. Worst case, you wind up with only the skanky one, and the hot one thinks you're an absolute pig. No matter what, YOU don't break up their friendship.

lautzutao
10-03-2005, 11:04 AM
[ QUOTE ]
"I think both of you want to do me. I wanted to decide tonight, but I just can't. I want to do both of you but I don't want to ruin your friendship. I'd be down for the 2 on 1 if you two would be, but I don't know how to talk to Hot Friend about it, without risking offending her." Chicks dig the honesty thing.

[/ QUOTE ]

Asking a woman for 2 on 1 action is majorly -EV. Just !@#$ the ugly one. This will get the hot one jealous, and she'll start trying to move in on you. Then get them both together and voila!

bozlax
10-03-2005, 11:07 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Asking a woman for 2 on 1 action is majorly -EV. Just !@#$ the ugly one. This will get the hot one jealous, and she'll start trying to move in on you. Then get them both together and voila!

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey, I'm just working of Wook's read, here. If one of them would be into it and you're sincerely concerned about ruining their friendship (not your concern, IMO, but that's a different thread), then you're better off not setting up the conflict scenario that your suggestion creates.

bozlax
10-03-2005, 11:13 AM
This avatar may be more disconcerting than Jax's.

bozlax
10-03-2005, 11:15 AM
[ QUOTE ]
3. Start to calcualte Pot odds. I dont even give these a second thought when factoring in decisions.

[/ QUOTE ]

Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

bozlax
10-03-2005, 11:17 AM
[ QUOTE ]
-find out why diet dr pepper tastes just like regular DP. seriously, how DO they do that?

[/ QUOTE ]

A better question is, who's the marketing genius that came up with Cherry Vanilla Dr. Pepper, or whatever the hell that is that just came out? Since Dr. Pepper is basically Cherry Coke (or, more precisely, Cherry Pepsi), starting to call it Cherry Dr. Pepper is pure, evil GENIUS!

MrWookie47
10-03-2005, 11:37 AM
I'm with Lao on this one. Any 2 on 1 suggestion has to be the idea of one of the girls. Otherwise, I get a drink poured on me and am forever branded as yet another sketchy horndog. My read just dictates that there is a real chance that it could be the idea of one of the girls. Also, the ugly one isn't exactly ugly. She's kinda got the goth thing going on, and she's not quite as good looking as the hot one, but she's still fairly attractive. The goth one also, while not a stripper, has given lessons in lap dancing. Her lap dances are hot.

Anyway, I think I've accomplished my goal. I'm going to have a good opportunity to hook up with the hot one while the goth one is still away in Maine, and convenience+hotness is a powerful combination. I also think that, based on a few things I've heard from the hot one, that the goth one has yielded me to her friend, because the hot on is even more gaga over me than the goth one was. Lastly, as a result of a side bet on our match, I told Nfinity he could pursue the goth one if he ever gets out of Asscrack, KY.

Edit: typo.

Reqtech
10-03-2005, 11:43 AM
[ QUOTE ]
"I think both of you want to do me. I wanted to decide tonight, but I just can't. I want to do both of you but I don't want to ruin your friendship. I'd be down for the 2 on 1 if you two would be, but I don't know how to talk to Hot Friend about it, without risking offending her." Chicks dig the honesty thing.

Asking a woman for 2 on 1 action is majorly -EV. Just !@#$ the ugly one. This will get the hot one jealous, and she'll start trying to move in on you. Then get them both together and voila!

[/ QUOTE ]

Strong in the force, this one is. If your goal is to bag both, get the "not as hot" one first.

Don't stress too much over their friendship, they'll grow apart after college anyways /images/graemlins/smile.gif

imported_CaseClosed326
10-03-2005, 11:48 AM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
1. cash out and quit poker

[/ QUOTE ]
Running that badly, or really giving it up?

[/ QUOTE ]

running badly. on sept 26th i cashed out a bunch of money and moved down to 1/2 6max from 3/6 6max so i could play more tables and more relaxed. instead i'm running at -4/bb over about 3k hands. not too long a strech but it sucks none the less.

[/ QUOTE ]

I am in that exact same spot right now. It sucks so bad, dropping down in limits feels like crap.

KingOtter
10-03-2005, 11:52 AM
[ QUOTE ]
1. cash out and quit poker

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm with you. I cashed out this weekend, too, because I ran so bad Friday night. I had been winning about 1BB/100 over the past week, then Friday night I lost double what I had made, and then some.

But I put back in some money to play some .5/1. I don't have the bankroll to be at 1/2 anymore, so I guess I'm rebuilding.

So October goals? Umm... build bankroll is about it, I guess.

KO

Vote4Pedro
10-03-2005, 12:04 PM
[ QUOTE ]
She's kinda got the goth thing going on

[/ QUOTE ]

Game, Set, Match...go with the other chick

bozlax
10-03-2005, 12:14 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Any 2 on 1 suggestion has to be the idea of one of the girls.

[/ QUOTE ]

So, change the script. To Goth, while Hot is in the head: "I'm really attracted to both of you, and I don't know what to do about it because I don't want to ruin your friendship with each other." (Perhaps raise an eyebrow, a la John Belushi in Blues Brothers, during the italicized part.) Edit: Take out "friendship", insert "connection."

And, I certainly hope that times haven't changed THIS much since I was in college. One, the direct approach is definitely +EV in the short-term (you're not actually looking for a relationship with either of these chicks, right?), party-hookup world. Two, when you have the opportunity to have steak AND lobster for the same price, you don't just eat the steak; you can always go to another restaurant and order just a steak if the maitre d' throws you out for singing too loud over your salad, but you MUST at least try to get the surf 'n turf.

MrWookie47
10-03-2005, 12:31 PM
Alright. That approach definitely sounds like a possibility, especially with the choice of "connection." Good going, man.

However, there are a couple more things. I'm not dealing with college girls, and I'm not a college guy. Also, the goth one is going to be away for a while, so I'm probably going to "just" end up hooking up with the hot one. I'll probably end up saving your approach in my back pocket for another time.

bozlax
10-03-2005, 12:55 PM
Glad you liked it.

Just to clarify, when I use the term "college" I mean, "twenty-something (usually), going out to bars 2-3 nights a week, not at home cuddling over bad HBO movies and ordering Chinese take-out for dinner". I know women that are pushing 40 that still fall into the "college girl" category, same with guys.

Sub-categories are just like poker: loose-passive and loose-aggressive. Sounds to me like you've got one of each, and just like at the table you need to figure out how to get the LP trapped between yourself and the LAG...in this case, literally. Watch out if Goth shows up at your house carrying something that looks like a piccolo case, or introduces you to her friend with the Batman fixation.

MrWookie47
10-03-2005, 01:02 PM
Ah, ok. I guess once we've got the nomenclature cleared up, we fit into your category. However, I think that there are a lot of differences between picking up girls at a college party versus in a bar. We'll save that for another time and another thread, however. We've probably hijacked Jax's thread enough (too much) already.

I did get a good laugh out of your poker analogy, btw. Loose and aggressive are definitely two good descriptors of the goth chick. The hot one I wouldn't describe as loose passive, however. She's tighter, and she definitely knows how to raise when, ahem, holding the nuts. And wasn't the goal of your previous post to get ME trapped between THEM?

aargh57
10-03-2005, 01:02 PM
Poker goals:

1. Play 15000 hands.
2. Start playing 3 tables 6max (if I don't still suck)
3. Post or respond to average of 70 hands.
4. Actually read all of Wookie's 6max baby steps threads.
5. Read Yao's book.
6. Go through SSH hand quizzes 3 more times (maybe not PF quizes) and reread the meat of the book.

Non poker related

1. Practice my banjo at least 10hrs/week when I get it back from the shop.
2. Go to the gym 3 times/week barring injury.

bozlax
10-03-2005, 01:11 PM
[ QUOTE ]
And wasn't the goal of your previous post to get ME trapped between THEM?

[/ QUOTE ]

All in good time, my friend. First you need to get TP Hot comfortable in this brave, new world. Best way to do that is for HER to be getting all the attention.

And, you're right. Time to leave Jax's thread alone.

bozlax
10-03-2005, 01:13 PM
[ QUOTE ]
1. Play 15000 hands.
3. Post or respond to average of 70 hands.
5. Read Yao's book.
6. Go through SSH hand quizzes 3 more times (maybe not PF quizes) and reread the meat of the book.
1. Practice my banjo at least 10hrs/week when I get it back from the shop.
2. Go to the gym 3 times/week barring injury.

[/ QUOTE ]

Do you live in some kind of magical time-warp where there are 46.75 hours in the day? Or do you just not sleep, eat or go to the head?

aargh57
10-03-2005, 01:18 PM
I work as a merchant sailor. My schedule is 4 months at sea and 4 months at home. I used to be a degenerate video game loser during my 4 free months, now I'm just a loser.

irishpint
10-03-2005, 01:28 PM
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr />
I work as a merchant sailor. My schedule is 4 months at sea and 4 months at home. I used to be a degenerate video game loser during my 4 free months, now I'm just a loser.

[/ QUOTE ]

arrrrrrrrrr matey

Reqtech
10-03-2005, 01:45 PM
[ QUOTE ]


1. Practice my banjo at least 10hrs/week when I get it back from the shop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Very cool. I've always wanted to learn to play the banjo. How difficult is it? Anything that you'd like to share? My only muscical experience is 4 years of playing the piano as a kid.

car ramrod
10-03-2005, 01:47 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Quote:
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1. Practice my banjo at least 10hrs/week when I get it back from the shop.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Very cool. I've always wanted to learn to play the banjo. How difficult is it? Anything that you'd like to share? My only muscical experience is 4 years of playing the piano as a kid.


[/ QUOTE ]

mandolin &gt; banjo, but still cool

aargh57
10-03-2005, 01:48 PM
I only played the trumpet for a few years in grade school and started playing the banjo about 2.5 years ago. It's a lot of fun and it's not that difficult. I'm even getting to where I can actually play some tunes pretty well and hoping to be able to start jamming with people in another year. I've heard that the guitar is easier and I would say it probably is but who wants to play the guitar when you could be the cool guy with the banjo.

USDaniels
10-03-2005, 04:16 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I...when you could be the cool guy with the banjo.

[/ QUOTE ]
What will you never say to a banjo player? Please move your Porsche.

http://bluegrassbanjo.org/banjokes.html
actually, I think i like this list better:
http://www.musicinscotland.com/BenachallyCeilidhBand/BanjoJokes.htm

10-03-2005, 05:01 PM
1) Play 10K hands of 1/2 to build the old bankroll
2) Learn how to play 6 Max
3) Actually review some of the hands that I play

jaxUp
10-03-2005, 05:12 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Time to leave Jax's thread alone.

[/ QUOTE ]

FWIW I think strategizing on how to bang fly bitches is definitely more important than poker, especially for the types of losers that internet forums tend to attract (though not all are losers). Many people will be better off for this. Also, please update us in the no content thread wookie, whenever updates are availible.

10-03-2005, 06:13 PM
1. 10k hands, at whatever level my BR can handle at the time, and move to 6-max at the 750BB mark.

2. Avoid books other than SSH and WLLH until I'm at a sufficiently high level to need advanced texts - simplicity of information is better for me, I have found. (This is a goal because HPFAP and HOH frequently dance in my head.)

3. Get back into playing more SNGs, to avoid NL rust.

4. Finish my book proposal.


As for the 3-way idea, it's hard enough to get 3-way action going when your GF brings it up to you, much less springing it on two unaware chicks. (No, my GF didn't have a specific partner in mind, that was the problem.)

DavidC
10-04-2005, 05:44 PM
[ QUOTE ]
1. 10k hands, at whatever level my BR can handle at the time, and move to 6-max at the 750BB mark.

2. Avoid books other than SSH and WLLH until I'm at a sufficiently high level to need advanced texts - simplicity of information is better for me, I have found. (This is a goal because HPFAP and HOH frequently dance in my head.)

3. Get back into playing more SNGs, to avoid NL rust.

4. Finish my book proposal.


As for the 3-way idea, it's hard enough to get 3-way action going when your GF brings it up to you, much less springing it on two unaware chicks. (No, my GF didn't have a specific partner in mind, that was the problem.)

[/ QUOTE ]

When you're done with SSH and WLLH, could you please tell me what you think of WLLH?

--Dave.

trainslayer
10-04-2005, 05:54 PM
PM me your address and I'll send you my copy. I bought it after SSHE and only read about 2 or 3 chapters. It was seriously confusing me trying to reconcile the two and I don't plan on ever picking it up agin.

10-04-2005, 06:39 PM
[ QUOTE ]
When you're done with SSH and WLLH, could you please tell me what you think of WLLH?

[/ QUOTE ]
I've actually read them both twice now. got WLLH after I got SSH, because as a complete n00b I found SSH a bit cerebral.

WLLH is, in general, for the people who have just sat down at their first Party Poker .5/1 table and wonder to themselves, "why does everyone draw out on me and not respect my raises?" It recommends a fairly tight, not terribly aggressive game (for example, limping from EP with a wide range of hands is recommended).

It's laid out well for beginners: "When You Flop a Pair," "When You Flop Trips," etc., and the "Odds, Pot Odds and Implied Odds" chapter is exactly three pages long, with no equations, so as not to confuse anyone. And the 3rd edition should have a co-writing credit for Barry Tanenbaum, his input is referenced so frequently.

In the newest edition there's a chapter on Internet poker and a huge section on NL sit-n-go strategy. Basically it advocates extremely tight play and avoiding all-in situations unless necessary (or if you're holding a monster). IME it's good strategy for cashing (but not necessarily winning) a lot in $5-10 SNGs.

To sum up, if you understand SSH pretty well, WLLH is not really necessary - SSH will give you a much higher win rate with its more aggressive strategies. Playing the WLLH way should keep your variance lower, though. I've just about completely grown out of it - the NL SNG chapters are about all I refer to these days.

Guruman
10-04-2005, 06:42 PM
October goals:

get rakeback at a party site
play another 5k of 1/2 sixmax
move up to 2/4 full
keep learning stud

DavidC
10-05-2005, 09:35 AM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
When you're done with SSH and WLLH, could you please tell me what you think of WLLH?

[/ QUOTE ]
I've actually read them both twice now. got WLLH after I got SSH, because as a complete n00b I found SSH a bit cerebral.

WLLH is, in general, for the people who have just sat down at their first Party Poker .5/1 table and wonder to themselves, "why does everyone draw out on me and not respect my raises?" It recommends a fairly tight, not terribly aggressive game (for example, limping from EP with a wide range of hands is recommended).

It's laid out well for beginners: "When You Flop a Pair," "When You Flop Trips," etc., and the "Odds, Pot Odds and Implied Odds" chapter is exactly three pages long, with no equations, so as not to confuse anyone. And the 3rd edition should have a co-writing credit for Barry Tanenbaum, his input is referenced so frequently.

In the newest edition there's a chapter on Internet poker and a huge section on NL sit-n-go strategy. Basically it advocates extremely tight play and avoiding all-in situations unless necessary (or if you're holding a monster). IME it's good strategy for cashing (but not necessarily winning) a lot in $5-10 SNGs.

To sum up, if you understand SSH pretty well, WLLH is not really necessary - SSH will give you a much higher win rate with its more aggressive strategies. Playing the WLLH way should keep your variance lower, though. I've just about completely grown out of it - the NL SNG chapters are about all I refer to these days.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks a lot. This is perfect.

DavidC
10-05-2005, 09:48 AM
October Goals:
--------------

Starting today, play 160 hours of holdem, hopefully at the top of my game mentally, and at max capacity in terms of tables (though guarding my sanity is important too).

For my bb/100 I choose infinite, but variance is a bitch, so I don't know if I'll hit my target.

I'd like to learn short-handed during this time, and generally improve my game to the point where I can move up to the next limit. I figure I can put in a solid few hours of short-handed play and general study on mondays and tuesdays, and still leave with with enough free time that I don't go insane before the end of the month. This is probably the most important part of my month's plan.

That's about it. I'm glad to get this in writing. It'll be interesting to see if I can make it. Last month was pretty good to me: here's to hoping this one will be better!

Life goals... I don't think I have any that can be accomplished this month. Getting my passport and getting some more experience driving would be great. Travelling and driving is something that I'd like to start doing by January. Hopefully Costa Rica. Baby-steps...

Edit: Reading. I'd like to read and discuss SSHE in as great a detail as possible with anyone willing to hash it out. I'm probalby going to check the "book club" section of the archives and forums as soon as I finish each chapter (for like the third time).

Re-Edit: Finish Chronicles of Narnia. God damn that guy's an amazing story-teller!

--Dave.

DavidC
10-05-2005, 09:58 AM
[ QUOTE ]
4. Pwn the MLL.


[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/frown.gif I'm not going to be getting involved in that. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[ QUOTE ]

5. Figure out what to do with the two friends who both want to do me, with whom I'm only about 10% to get away with doing both, and whose friendship I'd rather not be responsible for breaking.


[/ QUOTE ]

Wookie, pics-depending, I'd be happy to arrive wherever you live, and take the edge off one of them for you. This will reduce their stress in the time of transition while they get used to you banging the other one. What can I say, I'm a humanitarian. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

DavidC
10-05-2005, 10:05 AM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
change my [censored] avatar

[/ QUOTE ]

Awesome.

[/ QUOTE ]

DavidC
10-05-2005, 10:08 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Is this a poker book? If so, what's it called, and what does it cover?

[/ QUOTE ]

Weighing the odds in holdem.

I haven't read it, but I've heard it's awesome, discusses free card plays mathematically (which I've tried a few times to get discussion on here and failed), and short-handed play. Sounds good.

[ QUOTE ]
I'm only about 10% to get away with doing both

[/ QUOTE ]

2*0.1 = 0.2

Still +EV, but I'm sure Wookie's already figured out which play is the most +EV.

DavidC
10-05-2005, 10:12 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Non poker
Drive my car more,
Sleep with this girl i fancy,
Otherwise, whack it hard daily.

[/ QUOTE ]

fyp

DavidC
10-05-2005, 10:17 AM
[ QUOTE ]
-learn to play poker
-find out why diet dr pepper tastes just like regular DP. seriously, how DO they do that?

[/ QUOTE ]

Only like 5 guys on the forum know how to play poker, and I'm not one of them.

I'd therefore focus more heavily on the second goal. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

DavidC
10-05-2005, 10:23 AM
[ QUOTE ]
ra****ck deal there, and the (virtually unlimited,

[/ QUOTE ]

How wookie, what do you mean by **keba**?

DavidC
10-05-2005, 10:26 AM
[ QUOTE ]
4. Finish building up 300BB br on .5/1 so I can move up to 1/2.
5. Post on here a lot, becuase I won't be able to play much this month (demobilizing).


[/ QUOTE ]

4: you mean 600bb at 0.5/1 and 300bb at 1/2 right? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

5: ooc, what is "demobilizing" and any details you can give about that would be good... I'm curious if it basically just means light duty so that they don't send a whole ton of stressed people back to america where they'll hit the bars and get in fights.

DavidC
10-05-2005, 10:31 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 7d 8d (two pair, sixes and threes).
Hero has Qs Tc (two pair, sixes and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins 7.50 BB. </font>

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Read-dependent, I think you just dishonoured the entire city of sandiego by betting that river.

It may not be THAT bad though... seriously, I'd suggest giving this hand it's own thread... that's very strange river play.

--Dave.

DavidC
10-05-2005, 10:34 AM
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2. Beat a 6 max game (?1/2) over at least 5k hands (hopefully 10k)


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Bad idea dude, you may not win in 5k hands. A better goal would be to be a winning player in that length of hands, which is much more manageable.

DavidC
10-05-2005, 10:37 AM
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first setback - get stacked (200bb) AQsAKs vs KK74o allin preflop in $50 PLO. Gotta love losing 80/20's for an eighth of your roll.


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Maybe do the $25 tables instead? I don't know, I'm not used to NLHE, but 10-15x buy in seems more reasonable than 8x.

bozlax
10-05-2005, 11:35 AM
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Re-Edit: Finish Chronicles of Narnia. God damn that guy's an amazing story-teller!

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Great story. Of course, I read it, uh, almost 20 years ago, now. Yikes.

I'll hash SSHE with you. Let me know where you're starting, and PM me your email.

Guruman
10-05-2005, 10:32 PM
well, it's just been made very clear to me exactly how badly I suck at six-max.

New goal: drop back down to .50/1 and at least figure out what the hell I'm doing there. Even getting the default preflop stuff down would be a vast improvement over where I am now.

Brain
10-05-2005, 11:08 PM
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well, it's just been made very clear to me exactly how badly I suck at six-max.

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Hmm, I saw a Guruman-like name on Empire tonight and I went to sit somewhere else. Maybe I should have chosen your table after all. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

gonzopro
10-05-2005, 11:36 PM
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2. Beat a 6 max game (?1/2) over at least 5k hands (hopefully 10k)


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Bad idea dude, you may not win in 5k hands. A better goal would be to be a winning player in that length of hands, which is much more manageable.

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Uhhh, that's what I meant. Besides it is now October, not September.

Guruman
10-06-2005, 12:08 AM
nope, I was at Party tonight.

MrWookie47
10-06-2005, 12:10 AM
Umm, you do realize that Emipre = Party, right?

Guruman
10-06-2005, 12:13 AM
yeah, but I'm an idiot so my level of cognition is remarkably below what it would take to freakin figure that one out.

I've got to get a plan together for my brain now. It seems to be in some distress.

10-18-2005, 09:45 PM
So, how's the goals going for everbody?

MrWookie47
10-18-2005, 10:07 PM
Sucking it up.

I haven't bought King Yao's book. I haven't been reviewing enough. I'm playing 2/4 instead of 3/6 because 2/4 at non-Party is tougher than 3/6 at Party, but I am on pace to play 10k hands. I'm ranked 2nd to last in the MLL. And I'm definitely not going to get to do both of the chicks who were after me. I do still have the hot one after me, but living the dream ain't happening in this instance.

Eh, I'll go buy Yao's book right now. At least I'll accomplish something.

benkath1
10-18-2005, 10:29 PM
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1. Absorb the Psychology of Poker.


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meh, doing ok at this one. reading when i can.

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2. Play 10K hands of 1/2 6 max and learn the game, while bonus whoring. If I feel comfortable, move up to 2/4 6 max. I guess at stars, which I don't like cause of no ****back.


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Party's whole ordeal shot this to chit. I'm playing 2/4 6 max at stars and not sure if I like it or not.

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3. As for game aspect, pwn 6 max.

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see above.

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4. My non poker goal is to go back to work.

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Back in Brown baby!!!

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Maybe do a few casino bonuses.

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not.

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Check back on this thread once a week to remind myself I set goals and to make sure I meet them.

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Well, this is the first time I've checked back, so not so good on this one.

jaxUp
10-18-2005, 10:33 PM
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My goals are:

Take a shot at 5/10 6max after 4k more hands of 3/6 and at least 400 BB in my account

Play 5k hands/week when playing 3/6, 3500 hands/week if the majority of the time it's at 5/10

re-read HPFAP and take the time to actually digest everything

I have noticed that my stats when I'm 2-tabling are much better than when I 4-table. I am going to try and focus more when 4-tabling and get back to some basic hand reading and adaptation. If I am not able to do this, I will remove 1 or 2 tables (though I'll only be 2-tabling when I move to 5/10 anyways).

change my [censored] avatar

go and completely destroy the 2/5 game at Brantford for my friends's 19th

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did not play 4k hands of 3/6 6m...went straight to 5/10 6m where I have played about 17k hands, and about 3500 hands of 5/10 full

the birthday plans fell through and it has been loosely rescheduled for "later"

I have improved my multitabling abilities significantly

did not reread HPFAP

Avatar is gone in a week...I have set up the avatar challenge in the NC thread.

tiltaholic
10-18-2005, 10:58 PM
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So, how's the goals going for everbody?

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i've accomplished none of my goals. thanks for asking.

10-19-2005, 02:37 AM
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Sucking it up.

I haven't bought King Yao's book. I haven't been reviewing enough. I'm playing 2/4 instead of 3/6 because 2/4 at non-Party is tougher than 3/6 at Party, but I am on pace to play 10k hands. I'm ranked 2nd to last in the MLL. And I'm definitely not going to get to do both of the chicks who were after me. I do still have the hot one after me, but living the dream ain't happening in this instance.

Eh, I'll go buy Yao's book right now. At least I'll accomplish something.

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Boo-freakin-hoo /images/graemlins/grin.gif

bottomset
10-19-2005, 03:09 AM
I guess I didn't post in this thread afterall

I was checking to see how far off my hands played schedule i was

jaxUp
10-19-2005, 03:16 AM
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I guess I didn't post in this thread afterall

I was checking to see how far off my hands played schedule i was

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You are 7k hands off...now you have something to shoot for /images/graemlins/smile.gif

numeri
10-19-2005, 03:18 AM
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1) Keep building BR at 1/2.

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Well, I'm taking a shot at 2/4 right now and I'm convinced I suck at poker.

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2) Pay better attention. This may require playing 1 table to start and only opening a second when I have a good read on the first. (I play 6-max and only 2-table.)

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This has actually improved. I'm down to one table at 2/4 until I get in the black, which may be a while at this point.

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3) Tilt less.

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A constant battle.

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4) Learn some more passive lines vs. LAG players. I'm currently getting owned all too frequently.

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Some success here so far. Still plenty to learn.

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5) Put more thought into my posts.
6) Reply to some difficult hands instead of just the easy ones.
7) Spend less time reading 2+2 when there's no interesting content. (Hours and hours... just gone. Damn you 2+2!)

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5 and 6 I feel I'm doing OK on. 7 is obviously not so good as it's 2:15 in the morning and I'm replying to my own post. Man, I suck at poker.

car ramrod
10-19-2005, 09:23 AM
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1. play at least 12K hands
2. Reread HEPFAP
3. finish TOP
4. Post a few of my hands I have trouble with
5. Continue to run good at 2/4 and play at least 5k at 3/6.
6. Run even better at 3/6
7. Focus more, play 3 tables w/ no tv or surfing
8. Take my girlfriend out more so she continues to put up with all my poker playing.
9. Teach my brother to play goot so I can get a 10% cut of his profits, he offered.

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1. I'm on track to play 10K, so I gotta get going on hands.
2. have not reread HEPFAP
3. Half way thru TOP
4. posted 2 hands so far, not enough
5. 2/4 is going goot, playing 3/6 now, so hopefully make 5k
6. no
7. still watching tv too damn much.
8. trying, but if I do then I won't make the 12K hands
9. He doesn't listen for [censored], thinks he knows everything.

10-19-2005, 09:56 AM
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-Finish reading TOP and re-read SSHE...buy HPFAP for next month's reading goal.

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Got SSHE re-read, just got to work through the rest of the hand quizzes. Teaching the wife, so that should reinforce some of the points. Picked up HPFAP yesterday and have about 100 pages in TOP to go.

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-Get a working understanding of implied odds/reverse implied odds/pot equity and utilize that in my game

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This one is not coming along too well, but I'm winning so I'll work on that LATER...

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-Keep better and more detailed records including variance.

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Using a spreadsheet to track time played, limit, # of tables, notes, and balances at various poker sites. Will incorporate variance LATER...

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-Improve my self-discipline to avoid going on tilt/acting out of anger
-Clear at least four good bonuses


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Been better about not playing in anger but still need to watch this one. I'm sure it will take a while but I think I've made good steps so far.

Cleared three bonuses so far and have $400 of bonus left on Absolute to clear.

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-Take that three day backpacking/fly fishing trip I've been thinking of.


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This is the one that kills me...the weekend my buddy could go, we had huge downpours and the rivers were high. Been talking about this trip for a year now, and with a baby on the way, I don't think it'll happen in the spring. Dang it...

thesharpie
10-19-2005, 10:09 AM
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I guess I didn't post in this thread afterall

I was checking to see how far off my hands played schedule i was

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You posted in the small stakes (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=3546418&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;s b=5&amp;o=&amp;vc=1) one.

I also came here to check up on my goals then realized I must've posted in the SS one.

trainslayer
10-19-2005, 11:55 AM
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1. Rereread sshe and try to understand it this time. (rest of year goal)
2. Read WTOIH. (ordered it two days ago.)
3. Lose another 15 lbs. (21 last month.)
4. Get my fat ass back on my bicycle. (been about 2 years)

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1. + 2. reading both now
3. only 7 lbs so far this month - 11 days to go
4. [ QUOTE ]
Loc: peddlin' my ass off

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POKhER
10-19-2005, 11:58 AM
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Reading/Revision wise

- Read SSH, Re-Read SSH confirming all chapters are learnt, Fix all other leaks i wrote down previously on paper.

- Review PT hands(All losing ones).


Poker In general
- get another 5k at .50/1
- Increase bankroll to atleast $1000
- Move up to $1/2 if comfortable

Non poker
Drive my car more,
Sleep with this girl i fancy,
Study hard daily.

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Well ive read SSH, Rereading now then ill try fix leaks.
I logged 10k at .50/1 and moved up.
My bankroll is just short of $1000 because of losing 100BB or so at 1/2
I'm at 1/2 for now...

Non poker -
Well i aint asked this chick out/slept with her yet,
Studys ok.
havent drove car much.


NEW GOALS NOW
Poker
- Keep at 1/2 even through downswing and try beat it.
- Log 20k at 1/2 if i stay(or 10more k at .50/1)
- Get BR to $1200
- Join Bodog and get 200pts then spend at boogster.
- Read SSh, Do quizzes...Ace them all. Get TOP/HOH1/HOH2
- CASINO WHORE EVEN MORE THAN I AM! (it rules guys, Go do it... Seriously pm if u like!)

Life
- Sleep with this girl/ask her out(Maybe) - She wants me.
- Start bulking up for winter, ready for summer cut!
- Study harder, catch up.

aargh57
10-19-2005, 12:57 PM
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Poker goals:

1. Play 15000 hands.
2. Start playing 3 tables 6max (if I don't still suck)
3. Post or respond to average of 70 hands.
4. Actually read all of Wookie's 6max baby steps threads.
5. Read Yao's book.
6. Go through SSH hand quizzes 3 more times (maybe not PF quizes) and reread the meat of the book.

Non poker related

1. Practice my banjo at least 10hrs/week when I get it back from the shop.
2. Go to the gym 3 times/week barring injury.

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1. 43%completed
2. No
3. about 40% completed
4. No, but read some other 6max threads
5. Purchased, read 3 chapters and some SH stuff
6. No

Non poker
1. No
2. Yes (I got injured)

Guruman
10-31-2005, 06:07 PM
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October goals:

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get rakeback at a party site
well, we all know what happened there don't we? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
play another 5k of 1/2 sixmax
check.
move up to 2/4 full
acutally moved up to 2/4 6max and was promptly beaten back down.
keep learning stud
failed