jman220
10-01-2005, 02:23 PM
Guess I'm going to ruffle a few feathers here, but I have a few suggestions.
Honesty is the best policy in advertising.
1. The purpose of this forum is to make money for the people who purchased it. To the people who purchased it, you need to be honest about that fact and stop trying to hide the ball as to why you are not allowing discussion about specific percentages. I think you'd get a lot more respect from the posters here, myself included, if you just came right out and said that the reason for this ban was because you didn't pay for this forum to allow your competitors to adverise here, rather than trying to hide behind a spurious argument about allowing the release of percentages somehow contributing to the downfall of online rakeback. And responding to sound logican and economic critiques of this argument with "Yeah thats true, but we have information you don't know about" is silly. I have no problem with a commercial forum trying to make money by not allowing discussion of its competitors rates, which may very well be better than your rates, but you need to be honest about why your policy is here, and we will respect you for it.
2. With Regards to Empire Poker and rakeback. Come on. We all know that technically, empire poker does not allow it, and we know that you and your sub-affiliates are doing it anyway. And I for one am fine with that, as I'm sure are the vast majority of 2+2'ers who recieve rakeback on Empire. But evasively answering Lorinda's questions and trying to argue that what you are doing is A OK with empire even though it is clearly against their Terms of Services is also silly, just be honest with us and we'll respect you for it. I'm not going to stop getting Empire Rakeback from my affiliate just because I know that Empire doesn't approve, and I seriously doubt any potential customers will be turned off by this either. But what they might be turned off by is the evasive answers, the spurious arguments, and the claims of "We have information you don't, but we won't share it with you."
3. Claiming that XYZ company cannot survive on a 1% profit margin. I am not an affiliate, I only recieve rakeback, I do not work for one, but just as I don't have complete information about the inner economic workings of these rakeback companies, neither do you. And you cannot say that XYZ company cannot survive on a 1 percent profit margin because you are not XYZ company. There are plenty of arguments to be made that XYZ company could, and even if it could not because of the costs of advertising, etc..., if it was about to go belly up, there is no reason why it could not just simply cease all business activities, but continue to pay out its affiliates and take its 1 percent, without signing up any new customers, advertising, etc. This is a low overhead business.
I have no problem with the policies you set up for this board, I hope it survives, although I have my doubts, but I really think we need to all be honest here about the reasons for those policies.
Honesty is the best policy in advertising.
1. The purpose of this forum is to make money for the people who purchased it. To the people who purchased it, you need to be honest about that fact and stop trying to hide the ball as to why you are not allowing discussion about specific percentages. I think you'd get a lot more respect from the posters here, myself included, if you just came right out and said that the reason for this ban was because you didn't pay for this forum to allow your competitors to adverise here, rather than trying to hide behind a spurious argument about allowing the release of percentages somehow contributing to the downfall of online rakeback. And responding to sound logican and economic critiques of this argument with "Yeah thats true, but we have information you don't know about" is silly. I have no problem with a commercial forum trying to make money by not allowing discussion of its competitors rates, which may very well be better than your rates, but you need to be honest about why your policy is here, and we will respect you for it.
2. With Regards to Empire Poker and rakeback. Come on. We all know that technically, empire poker does not allow it, and we know that you and your sub-affiliates are doing it anyway. And I for one am fine with that, as I'm sure are the vast majority of 2+2'ers who recieve rakeback on Empire. But evasively answering Lorinda's questions and trying to argue that what you are doing is A OK with empire even though it is clearly against their Terms of Services is also silly, just be honest with us and we'll respect you for it. I'm not going to stop getting Empire Rakeback from my affiliate just because I know that Empire doesn't approve, and I seriously doubt any potential customers will be turned off by this either. But what they might be turned off by is the evasive answers, the spurious arguments, and the claims of "We have information you don't, but we won't share it with you."
3. Claiming that XYZ company cannot survive on a 1% profit margin. I am not an affiliate, I only recieve rakeback, I do not work for one, but just as I don't have complete information about the inner economic workings of these rakeback companies, neither do you. And you cannot say that XYZ company cannot survive on a 1 percent profit margin because you are not XYZ company. There are plenty of arguments to be made that XYZ company could, and even if it could not because of the costs of advertising, etc..., if it was about to go belly up, there is no reason why it could not just simply cease all business activities, but continue to pay out its affiliates and take its 1 percent, without signing up any new customers, advertising, etc. This is a low overhead business.
I have no problem with the policies you set up for this board, I hope it survives, although I have my doubts, but I really think we need to all be honest here about the reasons for those policies.