400 pl party standard?

[mike l.]

new to this game have no clue what im doing really but can tell the games are very good. was this one played right?


Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: bandit100 ( $369 )
Seat 2: jammaster ( $413.40 )
Seat 3: Ki_Double_D ( $195.84 )
Seat 4: lucol ( $1448.82 )
Seat 8: iamyou21 ( $720.71 )
Seat 9: NYCbuddha ( $422.50 )
Seat 10: spang20 ( $560.60 )
Seat 6: hero ( $479 )
Seat 7: Abuleel ( $396 )
hero posts small blind [$2].
Abuleel posts big blind [$4].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Ts As Tc Kc ]
iamyou21 folds.
NYCbuddha folds.
spang20 calls [$4].
bandit100 folds.
jammaster folds.
Ki_Double_D folds.
lucol folds.
hero calls [$2].
Abuleel checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, 5s, Jd ]
hero bets [$11.40].
Abuleel calls [$11.40].
spang20 calls [$11.40].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]
hero checks.
Abuleel checks.
spang20 bets [$43.90].
hero calls [$43.90].
Abuleel folds.

** Dealing River ** [ 4d ]
hero checks.
spang20 bets [$131].
hero folds.
spang20 does not show cards.
spang20 wins $262

also is there a good pl omaha hand converter? and a good place to look for starting hand info?

[beset7]

Hey Mike.

The best two books to read that discuss starting hands and PLO in general are Omaha Hold Em Poker: The Action Game by Caffione and the PLO section in PL/NL caffione/rueben. Also, you might want to read the Omaha articles here (http://www.winningonlinepoker.com/) and here. (http://www.playwinningpoker.com/omaha/)

As far as I hand converter I've actually been just submitting the hand at pokerhand.org. Then there is a "forum converter" option and though it says it doesn't work for anything but HE I've found it usually looks pretty good and I can just manually clean it up a little.

[twolf]

Converting PLO, from a link in the FAQ...

For the emailed versions of the HH's change the game name in the 2nd line from "Omaha Game Table" to "OmahaHiGameTable"

0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Tue Aug 16 22:01:33 EDT 2005

0/0 OmahaHiGameTable (PL) - Tue Aug 16 22:01:33 EDT 2005

Not sure how to do it for the ones stored on the Hard Drive.

[twolf]

I would play it the same except I don't think the turn is a +EV play unless you have implied odds and you likely don't. I was trying to see if calling the turn is +EV maybe somebody could help me here.

You need a spade(9), A(2), K(2), or Q(3 because of him likely holding one). So you have 16 outs out of 41 remaining cards. So have 2:1 on a ~2.5:1 shot so the call is -EV unless he calls small river bet. Is that going the right way for my answer?

[mike l.]

ill more than make up for that little bit on the river. these guys dont fold enough on the river.

[Acesover8s]

I bet the turn here 99% of the time. You have the straight blockers, a possible best hand, and plenty of outs to continue.

[mike l.]

"I bet the turn here 99% of the time."

i think i messed up. do you think i layed the winner down?? what if i pot the turn and he puts me all in? call?

[Big Dave D]

Mike,

The reason to bet the turn is the *combination* of having the blockers and maybe the best hand/draw. If you get raised, well then, you almost certainly don't have the best hand. SO it becomes a pure odds thing, which it's too late to figure out, but I suspect is a borderline pass.

Welcome to the plo forum, btw. I don't envy making the switch from limit holdem, if you havent played PLO much b4. And beware labelling players as bad until you've PTd them...I once labelled the three best player on Stars as complete fish.

gl

dd

dd

[mike l.]

"I once labelled the three best player on Stars as complete fish."

did they just seem ridiculously manical and then you realised they were playing smart? i could see that happening.

[iago]

[ QUOTE ]
I once labelled the three best player on Stars as complete fish.


[/ QUOTE ]

OT, but who are you referring to? I can guess, but it'd be fun to see if I'm railbirding the right guys (mostly Rafael Amit and Darwinism).

[Big Dave D]

Mike,

The problem with PLO is unlike LHE, preflop stats mean nothing. SO if you were in a full ring game of lhe, and a guy was playing half his hands, then there would be almost no chance he was a winning player. The same is not true in PLO. Winning players can have VIPs from 25 to 55%. You can only really judge a player by how he plays through the streets, which if you multitable, you often don't properly see.

gl

dd

[Big Dave D]

That's two of them...the other was CHUFTY or p10ker.

dd

[jj_frap]

www.bet-the-pot.com (http://www.bet-the-pot.com) has some of the best Omaha material I know of online, while www.pokernews.com (http://www.pokernews.com) has a very good series of articles as well.