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stupidsucker
10-01-2005, 01:45 PM
Copy/paste for the replayer. (http://suckerpoker.com/HH/fullHH.txt)

Let me know what you think. I am at the end of a 30 buy in downswing... again.

The Don
10-01-2005, 02:05 PM
1) Your avatar is scaring me
2) You gave 'omaha_stakes' far too much credit for hands all tourney. Think about it, you are to him the equivalent of what most fish are to you.
3) Otherwise pretty standard and generally well played. You seem to have a decent grasp on loose/tightness based on stack sizes.

stupidsucker
10-01-2005, 02:11 PM
2) You gave 'omaha_stakes' far too much credit for hands all tourney. Think about it, you are to him the equivalent of what most fish are to you.

care to elaborate with an example?

I am getting crushed(1% roi) right now for 2500 games, and I am playing gereraly just like this.

Van Strummer
10-01-2005, 03:08 PM
I would have pushed the K5 hand from the button with 150 blinds. Otherwise I would probably have played it the same.

jeffraider
10-01-2005, 03:14 PM
Oooooh full HHs:

Level 1:

Booooooooring

Level 2:

33 UTG+1 - Nice fold!

Level 3:

52s BB - Nice fold on the flop. A lot of people lose money here.

Level 4:

KJo Button - Nice push!

T8s BB - Nice flop push!

A9s UTG - Good fold, I think it was close but good.

Level 5:

T7o SB - Misclick leaving yourself 100? Good push if it was a misclick though.

K5o Button - I'd push here normally especially because omaha seems to be happy pushing and not getting called, so he's not going to be looking to call you with air.

Level 6:

AQs BB - Nice!

ATs UTG - Good push!

A4o BB - Nice fold, no reason to get involved here.

Level 7:

JJ SB - I would just push here rather than get cutesy, because getting cutesy looks more suspicious and he'll fold more often I think. You'd love a call so I'd just push.

A6o Button - Are you going to fold if NeverLoseLi repops you getting 3:1ish with A6? I think this raise to 1000 puts you in a bad spot and I'd just push here.

Heads up, Level 7:

Q3s SB - Good push! You've got a suited Q and you need the chips.

Q5o SB - I like this push too. I'm shocked you got a call by a worse hand though!

J6s SB - I think I'd prefer a complete/fold here. You've got the stack now and you're not desperate so I think that you should slow down a bit and not give him a chance to come back, especially when the blinds are relatively low right now and will be at 200/400 in a hand or two and you want to conserve your pushing power for then.

Heads up, Level 8:

99 SB - Booyah!

96s SB - I think the fold is good here. He's shown himself to be a folder when it's his SB so giving up the odd one is okay, and this guy has made some pretty hairy calls against you. Against a more aggressive opponent in the SB I'd push, and against a more sane caller opponent I'd push.

J2o SB - Nice push! J-high could be best (as it was) and you just gave him one so this one looks a little scarier.

J5o SB - I like this push because if he can fold you've got a nice chiplead on him and can keep the pressure on.

T8o BB - Nice check-call line! Woot!

K2s SB - No brainer!

Q3o SB - Nice push, and nice tournament!

I think you played really well, missed one push but otherwise really clean game!

I don't know what the other poster in this thread was talking about re: omaha, are you supposed to be calling his UTG pushes with K9??! You didn't make a single mistake against him except missing the K5 push.

lem45216
10-01-2005, 03:30 PM
Nice HH. I would have played this almost identicaly apart from folding 44 in level 2. (i like to see cheap flops with pocket pairs) and I would have pushed the JJ. But apart from that it was good. Well done on being victorius.

stupidsucker
10-01-2005, 05:45 PM
OK there is not any obvious leak here that is keeping me from having a good run then. I will post some more hands. I wanted to post this because it is a good example of how tight I play early and what I will and won push.

Now I will put together some replayer hands.

Freudian
10-01-2005, 06:28 PM
nm: misread the blinds. Hand Replayer displays twice the actual blinds.

I think you got pretty lucky this tournament (got the big hands when you were desperate, had the guy go out on the bubble with a rivered 7, had an opponent HU that called all-ins with crap) but you played well. I think I would have played pretty much the same. Not a whole lot of interesting situations in this game though.

stupidsucker
10-01-2005, 06:49 PM
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I think you got pretty lucky this tournament

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If you really mean this, then you might as well say you need to get lucky to win a SnG. Period.

I didnt get an over abundance of big hands, I didnt have any miraculous suckouts. There are going to be river suckouts and suckouts all around in every single SnG I play(for the most part)

Id say if I didnt get at least a big hand here or there when I needed it, then I am extremely unlucky.

This SnG seemed very uneventful, but lucky? that says to me that if I played it the same way over and over I would lose.

stupidsucker
10-01-2005, 06:52 PM
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K5o Button - I'd push here normally especially because omaha seems to be happy pushing and not getting called, so he's not going to be looking to call you with air.


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I thought about pushing this, if I remember. I guess I figured that most of my + EV came from winning the blinds, and 150 in chips just seemed to be a bit unneeded. I like my spot later rather then now.

This may very well be my biggest problem in SnGs now. I know that I used to push this, but I let it go a lot now.

bjb23
10-01-2005, 07:10 PM
the only real hand that jumped out at me (as i was half way watching) was the hu j6s push with the chip lead. this guy had already shown a propensity to call down with absolute garbage and the blinds were not very big compared to your stack ie. fe low, risk/reward ratio high.

then again, i probably play a less aggressive hu game than many here.

overall, gg, imo.

Freudian
10-01-2005, 07:18 PM
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I think you got pretty lucky this tournament

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If you really mean this, then you might as well say you need to get lucky to win a SnG. Period.

I didnt get an over abundance of big hands, I didnt have any miraculous suckouts. There are going to be river suckouts and suckouts all around in every single SnG I play(for the most part)

Id say if I didnt get at least a big hand here or there when I needed it, then I am extremely unlucky.

This SnG seemed very uneventful, but lucky? that says to me that if I played it the same way over and over I would lose.

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You won't play the same SnG over and over again. Sometimes you double up level 1 and sometimes you don't get AQ when you are in the BB with 3.5xBB. That's the way the cards fall.

I wasn't saying that you played bad. Just that you should be happy that you ran into a guy willing to double you up HU (not only once but twice) by calling with J2 or whatever it was and so on.

As for uneventful, the only hand that is interesting because there are more than one way to play it was the A9s hand UTG. The rest you pretty much had to do what you then did.

stupidsucker
10-01-2005, 08:19 PM
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The rest you pretty much had to do what you then did.


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imo this is the base of SnG play... the outcome is all variance. The cards you get when you get them and the action you get is all variance. You simply do what you got to do with what you get.

I am on tilt. I dont see what I can do much to help my roi lately, and have a big time dealing with 2500 games being variant [censored].

There has to be a major leak somewhere that is repeating itself. Damn it. I am going to find it.

Freudian
10-01-2005, 08:32 PM
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The rest you pretty much had to do what you then did.


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imo this is the base of SnG play... the outcome is all variance. The cards you get when you get them and the action you get is all variance. You simply do what you got to do with what you get.

I am on tilt. I dont see what I can do much to help my roi lately, and have a big time dealing with 2500 games being variant [censored].

There has to be a major leak somewhere that is repeating itself. Damn it. I am going to find it.

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It most likely isn't early game. Even if you give up some EV by playing supertight it won't make a huge dent in your ROI (though I think it will be more and more important in SnGs since even bad players as a group will slowly adjust to pushbotting in the long run).

For a 2+2er who is having problems, my guess is overagreesion on the bubble. But the HH you posted you seemed pretty patient (but then again you didn't get many hands that would potentially get you in trouble with that).

stupidsucker
10-01-2005, 08:58 PM
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For a 2+2er who is having problems, my guess is overagreesion on the bubble. But the HH you posted you seemed pretty patient (but then again you didn't get many hands that would potentially get you in trouble with that).

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These were my thoughts as well. I am playing super tight early with the exception of being extra aggressive with JJ and even TT at times. My full months results are posted in the Goals thread. You will see that my ITM dist is very bottom heavy(3rds). My bubble stats are not healthy either.

This could very well mean that I am not being aggressive enough OR too aggressive... I honestly think at times it is both and this is my problem. I keep over correcting one for the other and ending up in the same spot.