How much worse could i have played this? 25PL

[TWINUNO]

I think i tried to get to selfish.
***** Hand History for Game 2803443813 *****
$25 PL Omaha - Friday, September 30, 21:28:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 37900 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: gammmon ( $25 )
Seat 2: AcePrague ( $19.80 )
Seat 5: cliff62 ( $133.51 )
Seat 8: jencha ( $59.04 )
Seat 9: nutflopper55 ( $19.75 )
Seat 10: easymoneysr ( $0 )
Seat 3: snapdotz ( $17.30 )
Seat 4: fortune1123 ( $23.35 )
Seat 6: ROBUBLIND777 ( $2.50 )
nutflopper55 posts small blind [$0.10].
gammmon posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to snapdotz [ Ad Js Qh Ac ]
AcePrague calls [$0.25].
snapdotz calls [$0.25].
fortune1123 folds.
cliff62 calls [$0.25].
ROBUBLIND777 calls [$0.25].
jencha calls [$0.25].
nutflopper55 calls [$0.15].
gammmon checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 6h, 9d ]
nutflopper55 checks.
gammmon checks.
AcePrague checks.
snapdotz bets [$1.70].
cliff62 calls [$1.70].
ROBUBLIND777 is all-In [$2.25]
jencha calls [$2.25].
nutflopper55 folds.
gammmon has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
gammmon folds.
AcePrague folds.
snapdotz calls [$0.55].
cliff62 calls [$0.55].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
RIFLEMAN481 has joined the table.
snapdotz bets [$10.25].
cliff62 folds.
jencha folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]

[joewatch]

You could have played it worse by raising the pot preflop, then potting the flop.

[Acesover8s]

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You could have played it worse by raising the pot preflop, then potting the flop.

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That would be playing it well.

[wickss]

You could have played it worse by folding preflop.

[joewatch]

I can understand that that would be the correct play at PLO$200 and up, but at $25? Watch the whole table call and the guy with top 2 pair take all your chips.

[Acesover8s]

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I can understand that that would be the correct play at PLO$200 and up, but at $25? Watch the whole table call and the guy with top 2 pair take all your chips.

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If that is true, you would still be getting a great overlay on your money.

[fisherman112]

they only take your chips if you let them.

if you have aaxx non suited, it's not a hand to write home about. if you dont hit the flop hard and it's 5 handed, you dont have to throw any more money away.

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You could have played it worse by raising the pot preflop, then potting the flop.

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That would be playing it well.

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OK, I'm curious how raising pre-flop turns this into "playing it well" (assuming you feel the line in the OP is poor play). Would this extend to the pot bet on the turn with nut straight + naked Ace on a flush board with 1 player already all-in?

I can understand how to pre-flop raise would be better, but not how it makes the difference so great that it changes it from poor play to good play.

The only differences I can thnink of are that a pre-flop raise would reduce the number of callers, reduce the potential range of their holdings, and make it easier to go all-in (or near it) on a favourable flop.

OK, good reasons all, but how does your thinking change after the flop if you don't raise and find yourself in a 7-way pot UTG+1 with a 6 out draw and the flush draw Ace?

Isn't it reasonable to say that the flop bet scares off most naked flush draws and you can be pretty certain that any callers either have a set or a naked nut straight? If you get several callers you have odds, and if you get a significant raise you can safely fold.

Or is the problem that in most cases (given the fact that it's 7 handed) either someone will have a raising hand or you'll get exactly one caller thus making the flop bet -EV in the long run?