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ggbman
09-30-2005, 08:59 PM
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.66 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (4.83 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (6.83 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 13.83 BB

Thoughts?
djk123
09-30-2005, 09:01 PM
why fold for one bet after all that?
lil feller
09-30-2005, 09:10 PM
Putting in a 3rd bet on the river with one pair without being able to call a 4th is just nuts. If you can't call a cap, don't 3bet the river.

Personally i've haven't played against Schneids in a long time, and didn't know who he was when I did, but based on his stuff here there's no way he's calling a 3bet with less than one pair. That river 3bet is horrible.

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ggbman
09-30-2005, 09:14 PM
I'm pretty sure he calls the river with one pair hands against me. Schneids?
Jeff W
09-30-2005, 09:16 PM
Why did you bet the flop?
NLSoldier
09-30-2005, 09:34 PM
Why did you bet the flop?

I agree that he pays of with some one pair hands. Almost certainly with AQ/KQ.
ggbman
09-30-2005, 09:36 PM
Because the way i percieve schneids, and the way i think he percieves me meant that i might be able to get a value raise from him somewhere with hands worse than a pair of queens. Could be wrong though, i don't really know what schneids thinks of me.
Chris Daddy Cool
09-30-2005, 09:57 PM
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I'm pretty sure he calls the river with one pair hands against me. Schneids?

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he will call a river bet with one pair, but theres no way he's calling a river 3-bet with just one pair, which is why the 3-bet is bad bad bad.
DeadMoneyOC
09-30-2005, 10:08 PM
I REALLY dont think schneids folds a queen or KK to this 3 bet, but maybe my sample is too small. From my experience with him, he makes far more tough/thin value bets than questionable folds, which is why i think he calls with some hands here. We'll have to see what he says, but after i folded, he said he wouldnt fold QK or better to his cap.

(this is Gabe btw on my friends account)
Nigel
09-30-2005, 10:12 PM
I don't think he folds, you can get value out of a 3 bet, especially at a 2+2 table. /images/graemlins/wink.gif