Is this even worth it? Just dump the turn?

Villain in this hand is 44/4.5/2
No specific read, but after the hand he appeared to be on massive tilt. If I had been paying enough attention to the table to notice that I would have called the river or raised the turn.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, CO folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (4.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

[Zele]

Dump the flop.

[B Dids]

I'm more inclined to raise this flop and get a free turn than I am to ever fold this.

[baronzeus]

raise the flop, bet the turn when you spike a pair, checkbehind on the river

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[krishanleong]

raise or call the flop, but once you call the flop I raise that turn every day.

Krishan

[deepsquat]

Is raising the flop here standard procedure? Against an unknown will u take a free turn card UI?

I've stopped playing draws as aggressively as I have been, mostly check/calling them. The reason is that missed draws have been costing me a lot of money. I just feel that if they are going to show down A high and any pair, there is little to no folding equity. I'm not talking about situations where the pot is big and I'm value raising..I'm talking about heads up/3 way postflop. Against a horrible player leading out into 3 players, is this logic flawed?

I think I should have raised the turn on this hand and called a 3 bet then folded the river if I missed.

If you just call a 3bet he will lead the next card. If you intend on calling the turn , consider capping the flop. Most of the time after a cap you will get a freecard nearly always. And if you dont hit you save 1 sb.

Well I was going to just call the flop and raise the turn, I was talking about him 3 betting the turn (with a 7).

I used to cap for the free card constantly but I've stopped doing that because as my aggression got higher and higher my opponents were leading into me on the turn A LOT. I think perhaps this play should be saved for opponents who aren't as willing to donk every street.

[gildwulf]

Why didn't you raise the turn? What makes you think the lagtard has a 7?

If you call the turn I think you should call a non-club non A/K river.

I have been working on scaling down my aggression in some areas, this was obviously a mistake this hand. I felt like I was losing a lot of money on missed draws but my hand was stronger than I was giving it credit for on the turn.

[MicroBob]

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I was talking about him 3 betting the turn (with a 7).

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When he bet the flop my first impression would have been "well...that means he probably DOESN'T have a 7."

he could have had 2 clubs here or 89 or 54 or anything else for that matter..... but I'm sure not afraid of a 7 because the more common situation would have him CHECKING if he made trips.


Depending on my image of recent I will either call the flop and raise the turn (if I think the opponent can fear ME holding a 7 to induce a fold enough of the time)....or I will raise the flop for a free-card and then possibly just check/call the turn.