BK and Schneids KQ vs. KQ, question for BK

[Nigel]

BK,

I know you felt you should have raised the river since you typed it in the chat, but isn't raising the river in this spot basically a must?

I've run into a handful of these spots recently where my read on a guy bluffing or semi-bluffing is so strong and I call river to find my KQ loses to A2, or my AJ to AQ, that sort of thing. Basically I'm trying to trust my read and bet or raise the river more when I don't hold the nut nothing. Do you find it's better to raise in these spots and pop it, possibly folding a low pair even, or rely on the fact that your hand is strong enough to beat most nothing hands and you lose only 1 bet if wrong.

Thoughts?

(Here's the hand for those who want to see it sorry it's in raw form)

***** Hand History for Game 2802286244 *****
$15/$30 Texas Hold'em - Friday, September 30, 17:49:36 EDT 2005
Table SkiStrike's pvt table 1 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Papa_WarBuck ( $925 )
Seat 3: Fate18 ( $1172 )
Seat 4: NOT_TSP ( $2053.50 )
Seat 5: SkiStrike ( $1156.50 )
Seat 6: LAtoLV ( $1404 )
Seat 1: Prodigy_X ( $1019 )
Prodigy_X posts small blind [$10].
Papa_WarBuck posts big blind [$15].
** Dealing down cards **
Fate18 folds.
NOT_TSP folds.
SkiStrike raises [$30].
LAtoLV folds.
Prodigy_X folds.
Papa_WarBuck calls [$15].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, Td, 7h ]
Papa_WarBuck checks.
SkiStrike bets [$15].
Papa_WarBuck calls [$15].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
Papa_WarBuck bets [$30].
SkiStrike calls [$30].
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
Papa_WarBuck bets [$30].
SkiStrike calls [$30].
Papa_WarBuck shows [ Qs, Ks ] high card king.
SkiStrike shows [ Qh, Kc ] high card king.
Papa_WarBuck wins $108.50 from the main pot with high card king.
SkiStrike wins $108.50 from the main pot with high card king

[flawless_victory]

that river call is looking pretty nasty.

[bicyclekick]

lol not playing serious bud. I'm not playing totally retarded...but yeah.

Testing a few thoughts/theories while playing a bunch of other tables. Messing around in hands with schneider is def at the top of the list.

I agree I should raise if i do anything other than fold but i'm a retard and didn't do it lol.

[Nigel]

Once he donked the turn I expected you would be calling down, given the history between you two. But thats why I was curious about this specific hand, simply because I wondered if your hesitancy to raise was based on the fact that he tends to refuse to be bluffed and might call with any hand that beats you, and otherwise you basically you beat most hands that are total air.

I thought it was kind of interesting as, like I said, it paralelled similar situations that I have been in recently agaisnt a similar type of opponent.

Thanks,

Nigel

[Schneids]

In a 2p2 15/30 game BK will have zero bluff equity vs me and I'm pretty sure he's aware of that fact. But I'm also aware he knows this, blah blah repeat loop times 4.

[Nigel]

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blah blah repeat loop times 4.

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Lol. Exactly.

[Klepton]

BK is skistrike?

i always throught he was a lucky fish /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[steveyz]

I believe that's where game theory would come in handy. Pretty hard to sufficiently randomize your play optimally in real time though.

[bicyclekick]

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BK is skistrike?

i always throught he was a lucky fish /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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uh huh.