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benkath1
09-30-2005, 05:11 PM
Anybody interested? I can post them in this thread, or post the histories to download into PT.

MrWookie47
09-30-2005, 05:21 PM
Stick them in here, especially if you have comments on each hand. Let's try it as an experiment for a new Microposter format. I think I'll hold off on making this a sticky, however. Let's get some feedback on this, see how it works, and then we may port over to this new system later. Thanks for doing this.

WalkAmongUs
09-30-2005, 05:27 PM
Does anyone think it would help to have people request certain game conditions or the like?

Such as "I'm having trouble playing in really loose games, anybody have a session for review?"

You could maybe do the same for really tight games, to help when people play absolute or something.

Or you could request sessions from a given limit so that people can take a look before jumping up.

@bsolute_luck
09-30-2005, 06:41 PM
let's see 'em ben. i know you've had some frustrations learning 6-max.

Jefzter
09-30-2005, 06:47 PM
Let em fly. I play full games so I would love to see action at the 6-max tables while keeping my $$ to myself!

One request please... can you number the hands 1, 2, 3, and so forth? The format of the current micro-poster hands with 69 digits is ridiculous.

benkath1
09-30-2005, 07:01 PM
OK, here's 16 hands. I took out all the obvious folds. Let me have it.


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Preflop: Hero is CO with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Blind steal.

Flop: (6 SB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Continuation bet, but I think I could have checked this.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

Take the free card.

River: (4.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

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Preflop: Hero is MP with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

I hate the open limp here.

Flop: (5 SB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds.

Standard bet.

Turn: (4 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, Button calls.

Standard, i presume. If I had met some resistance here, I think I would have called down.

River: (6 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds.

Value bet.

Final Pot: 7 BB

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Value raise/blind steal.

Flop: (4.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

I felt BB could c/r me with any part of this flop, so I choose to see a free flop.

Turn: (2.25 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds.

I'm pretty much betting any 2 here as BB would have bet this turn with anything, when he checks, I bet and check behind the river if he calls.

Final Pot: 3.25 BB

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Raise here? I wasn't sure, oop I took a free look.

Flop: (3 SB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Here I'd seen SB bet a few flops and fold to any aggression on later streets. My plan was to call here and raise any scare card.

Turn: (3 BB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds.

Hey hay hay! It worked. Note taken. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Final Pot: 6 BB

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (4 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Standard?

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This one I didn't like.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (4.50 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB


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This one I'm banking on FE I might not have. I'd been playing tight this far and not showing down any weak hands, so I think my table image was good enough to pull this off.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: 3 BB

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This hand I got stuck in and should have folded on the turn. Didn't expect the action I got.


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Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. UTG posts a blind of $1.50.
UTG (poster) checks, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (13.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 15.25 BB

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This hand was fun. I went with my gut and my reads. I'd seen button overplay top pair, and the other LP's could be coming along with any part of this. Too much aggression?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Here my plan was to call down if I got raised by anybody else than button.
River: (16.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP folds, Button folds, SB calls.

Final Pot: 18.50 BB

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, MP calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls, MP folds.

River: (9 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

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A little loosish preflop on this one, but got the flop I was looking for.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.



Flop: (4 SB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP folds, Button calls.

Ya ya.



Turn: (3.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.


Hmmmm, 3 bet here? Is he slowplaying a Q and hit his kicker? Semi bluffing a flush draw? This guy was new to the table, so I didn't have anything on him.


River: (7.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Allright, I don't know if this is a call or not. After the turn raise, I just couldn't. If he was semi bluffing, MHING.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 2.75 BB

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls.

Standard? First raiser was Mr. raisepreflopandfoldguy. I didn't like the cold caller though.

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You guys bet this river?

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Preflop: Hero is MP with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (5 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (7 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7 BB

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Raise for value here?

Flop: (3.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: 2.25 BB

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Can you say......luckbox? OK, how bad was this hand. I know the cap preflop was bad, cold calling the flop was meh, but on the turn I picked up a butt load of outs.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (16 SB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (14 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

Jefzter
09-30-2005, 07:20 PM
Question about the first hand…I haven’t read any other hands yet but wanted to ask this as soon as possible.

You tried for a blind steal, do you do this much at these low levels? I had heard that blind stealing was kind of pointless at micro levels but please correct me if I’m missing out on potential money making opportunities.

I do like to steal blinds like a fiend when in a NL tourney and your hand was the kind I look for. Betting the flop was the right follow through though with it still at small bets your not getting rid of the calling stations. No use betting the turn since flush and straight draws already have the odds to call.

benkath1
09-30-2005, 07:23 PM
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Question about the first hand…I haven’t read any other hands yet but wanted to ask this as soon as possible.

You tried for a blind steal, do you do this much at these low levels? I had heard that blind stealing was kind of pointless at micro levels but please correct me if I’m missing out on potential money making opportunities.

I do like to steal blinds like a fiend when in a NL tourney and your hand was the kind I look for. Betting the flop was the right follow through though with it still at small bets your not getting rid of the calling stations. No use betting the turn since flush and straight draws already have the odds to call.

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This wasn't my first hand at the table. Maybe my 10th or 12th. I had a semi tight image, so I thought the result might be different. It was a partial steal/partial value raise.

milesdyson
09-30-2005, 07:41 PM
1 J8s: fine
2 J8s: raise/fold preflop
3 K8s: must bet flop, no excuse
4 A6o: pretty awful. fold the flop, fold the turn. calling the flop is very bad.
5 QJo: it's fine, but i would probably just call the river.
6 J9o: check the turn, hope to get a free look at the river.
7 T8s: ??? standard unless you want to fold preflop
8 AKo: check fold the turn. please fold to bb's c/r. you're drawing dead.
9 86o: 2nd nuts bet raise bet raise standard
10 AKo: standard
11 T3s: i'd fold the turn
12 AA: ?
13 QJs: yup
14 QJo: mostly i fold preflop, and yeah i mostly value bet that river
15 A9s: my pfr cutoff there is ATs unless i feel frisky
16 TT: cap preflop is pointless and the flop call is thin but probably okay.

09-30-2005, 07:45 PM
Ok.. lessee now.

I don't like the AK hand.. on turn you gotta fold when BB raises.. I mean what could he have that you can draw to and win? I'm not sure if I'd fold the flop already, but that may be too weak.

On the AA hand, slowplay on flop seems an option.. depending of course if any reads of the villain are available

The TT hand... I wouldn't cap TT. And I'd fold the flop for two bets there are 2 spades on board and you don't have any yourself.

In the whole I'd say I'd play those hands quite the same way.. some of the steals seemed brave, but I have yet played only a little of 6-max so can't really comment on that.

benkath1
09-30-2005, 07:46 PM
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4 A6o: pretty awful. fold the flop, fold the turn. calling the flop is very bad.

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Even with a decent read?

milesdyson
09-30-2005, 09:19 PM
i was at work when i responded to these hands, and i couldn't get back to this to answer you.

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4 A6o: pretty awful. fold the flop, fold the turn. calling the flop is very bad.

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Even with a decent read?

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i will quote what you gave as your read:
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Here I'd seen SB bet a few flops and fold to any aggression on later streets.

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first i wouldn't call this a decent read. i would call it "something i saw at the table." a read is "will bluff raggy flops," or "will bluff paired flops," or "will cap flush draws regardless of size of field," etc.

it is often the right play to bet the flop and fold to aggression later. i'm just saying that seeing him do this doesn't really tell you much about him. now if you'd seen him show down 22 after he bet the flop and turn on a 89QA board, well that's a read you can use.

and this was what you decided to do with this read:
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My plan was to call here and raise any scare card

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there are several things i don't like here.

1. there's a player to act behind you and you're devising a plan for a future street based on incomplete information. it seems like you ignored the 3rd guy altogether.
2. when you do get a chance to raise this turn, he has now already bet the flop and turn. and since we really don't know how he plays yet, we are going to put 2 BB into a small pot with bottom pair against some guy who probably has a better hand. we are relying on him (AND the other guy) to fold here.

@bsolute_luck
09-30-2005, 09:40 PM
you seem to be doing fine at 6-max to me. do you still not like it?

1. goot
2. Fold PRF too early for a raise.
3. meh, i usually bet this flop
4. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif read-based i guess but long run = bad idea
5. goot
6. check/call with outs. you're lucky he didn't 3-bet here.
7. goot
8. fold the turn
9. is button that aggressive then i c/r the turn.
10. goot
11. goot (minus loose PRF call)
12. goot
13. goot
14. Fold PRF.
15. goot
16. PRF cap is fine with position and oodles of schmucks cold calling gives better odds to call that flop.

benkath1
09-30-2005, 10:21 PM
Gotcha. I hope it didn't seem like I was arguing about your response. I didn't post these hands to brag, or show off or anything else. After reading these boards, my general view of 6 max, at least 1/2 6 max at party, was that it was a lag fest where the players are utterly horrible. I had the impression a guy could go in there and win with any two. I'm starting to figure it out, slowly but surely. Reading Aarons posts and playing some hands with deception has been an eye opener. OH, and of course milesdyson keeping it real. I think a few more session posts similar to this one would be interesting.

Thanks for the help guys.

Ben

milesdyson
09-30-2005, 10:25 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Gotcha. I hope it didn't seem like I was arguing about your response. I didn't post these hands to brag, or show off or anything else.

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didn't seem argumenative at all.

i might post up a session some time. i will feel like an idiot having my hands show! low my gosh!

MrWookie47
09-30-2005, 10:31 PM
I think this is a very good system. The hands look great (not necessarily the play, but the post). The only thing I'd change would be to add hand numbers next time. That'll make it easier to reply to.

milesdyson
09-30-2005, 10:32 PM
well now, out of curiosity, what prevents everyone from posting 20 hands at a time? are there criteria?

MrWookie47
09-30-2005, 10:35 PM
We were trying this format out as a replacement for Microposter, not to make posting 20 hands at a time a regular occurance.

benkath1
09-30-2005, 10:42 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I think this is a very good system. The hands look great (not necessarily the play, but the post). The only thing I'd change would be to add hand numbers next time. That'll make it easier to reply to.

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OK, so give me your comments on the play too.

BTW, this was a fair ammount of work, but playing with the paper and pen in front of me made a huge difference. I need to autopilot less. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

milesdyson
09-30-2005, 10:42 PM
okay but just letting you know all my future hand posts will be at least 20 hands.

and here is a lamb to comfort you
http://www.morehousefarm.com/GiftCards/Lamb.jpg

benkath1
09-30-2005, 10:46 PM
[ QUOTE ]
okay but just letting you know all my future hand posts will be at least 20 hands.


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Now that you are supporting yourself at .50/1 6 max with a negative winrate, you may need your hands gone over 20 at a time.

Aaron W.
09-30-2005, 11:11 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I think this is a very good system. The hands look great (not necessarily the play, but the post). The only thing I'd change would be to add hand numbers next time. That'll make it easier to reply to.

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This still has the no-reads issue (especially notable in the hand where Hero says "This hand was fun. I went with my gut and my reads. I'd seen button overplay top pair, and the other LP's could be coming along with any part of this. Too much aggression?") and the can't-copy-suits issue (unless we're going to allow people to respond to the Microposter thread). I do like that Hero interjects his thoughts.

milesdyson
09-30-2005, 11:12 PM
i almost have to move down to 0.25/0.50 for my bankroll

MrWookie47
10-01-2005, 01:38 AM
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I think this is a very good system. The hands look great (not necessarily the play, but the post). The only thing I'd change would be to add hand numbers next time. That'll make it easier to reply to.

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This still has the no-reads issue (especially notable in the hand where Hero says "This hand was fun. I went with my gut and my reads. I'd seen button overplay top pair, and the other LP's could be coming along with any part of this. Too much aggression?") and the can't-copy-suits issue (unless we're going to allow people to respond to the Microposter thread). I do like that Hero interjects his thoughts.

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I think that if hero is interjecting his thoughts, then he can supply a read for a read dependent play. It may have been omitted here, but it can be asked of future posts like this. Also, I thought of a good solution for the suits thing. Since we're only posting 20 hands, not 100, the poster can make two identical posts. The first one will be displayed with all the suits. The second one will be a reply to the first and will be identical. However, UBB code will be turned off for the reply. This is easy to do using the "Make post" drop down menu. The reply, then, can be cut and paste to make discussion threads that feature the correct suits easily.

bottomset
10-01-2005, 01:58 AM
hand1: fine, that should be about the limit for your openraising Jxs OTB

hand2: fold preflop, raising is better than openlimping, but J8s is a pretty weak hand HU, and its hard to get the 5way action it needs for a limp to be correct. I usually fold this when I'm the CO and its folded to me as a default, though I might raise it from time to time.

hand3: absolutely need to bet the flop here, remember you might get C/R'd if he has something, but he misses the flop 2/3rds of the times he doesn't have a PP .. and the only draw are broadway gutshots which are weak, you get the folds needed for the bet to be +EV even if he c/rs everytime he has a piece

hand4: I fold the flop here most of the time, thats a pretty raw board to make a move on, in a tiny pot, the JT, T9, QT boards hit a ton of hands .. if he bet/folds a lot raising the flop has merit if you get CO out of the hand, since you can follow up, or take a free river depending on the turn card, and the initial raise can take the pot down

hand5: river is close, prob fine, though villian needs to be someone who will payoff the raise with anyclub, or some other hands .. or its a sucker bet only getting action from the big2clubs, so its pretty villian dependent

hand6: prob fine

hand7: if its 3handed on the flop, or HU and you were the last aggressor preflop, just bet the flop, 1/2 players likely really struggle in the transition from 6handed to 3handed .. prob about as bad as they do going 10handed to 6handed, remember these flop bets usually only need to work about 1/5 to be breakeven.

hand8: details about UTG? posting a BB+deadSB UTG 4handed likely means a very bad player, prob pretty aggressive, since he really doesn't want to wait 45secs. BB has a big hand though most all the time, and you are drawing dead too often to continue on the turn

hand9: fine

hand10: NH

hand11: ugly turn, getting a modest 7.5/2 on a calldown, looks doubtful you are good that often

hand12: good, sucks not getting paid

hand13: so UTG raises light, and folds too much on the flop? how does MP and the players behind you play? if its gonna be 5handed, coldcalling prob isn't bad, and if MP plays weak postflop, and the 3bet gets it 3way it might have merit as well ..

hand14: river play is one of my weakest parts of my game, I think you see Kbaby a lot of the time here, and SB on a draw that doesn't payoff a good chunk of the rest of the time, if SB doesn't fold pairs postflop bet, since he'll have a weaker Q, or T, 99 or something often enough.

hand15: I raise a lot of the time here, as long as the limpers aren't the tight, limpin with AJ, AQ types, flop bet is good

hand16: yeah I don't cap this preflop, flop coldcall is tough, I don't think you have 4effective outs, and the implied odds aren't that good with this hand, on a board like that, rainbow is prob a better proposition