I know I'm beat

[Hung]

I know I'm beat. But I couldn't fold.


<pre><font class="small">code:</font><hr> Hand #144991-1082 at Shiraz (No Limit Hold'em)
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Started at 16/May/03 13:57:17

UNCLEGAMBS is at seat 0 with $69.50.
luv2poker is at seat 1 with $75.47.
cjc010 is at seat 2 with $60.60.
balconybash is at seat 3 with $59.45.
billpoker is at seat 4 with $7.85.
cowboysnspurs is at seat 5 with $20.60.
naruto is at seat 6 with $30.65.
Captain is at seat 7 with $22.
QQHenryQQ is at seat 8 with $6.85.
Ranger Rick is at seat 9 with $73.50.
The button is at seat 0.

luv2poker posts the small blind of $.25.
cjc010 posts the big blind of $.50.

UNCLEGAMBS: -- --
luv2poker: -- --
cjc010: -- --
balconybash: -- --
billpoker: -- --
cowboysnspurs: -- --
naruto: 2s 2c
Captain: -- --
QQHenryQQ: -- --
Ranger Rick: -- --

Pre-flop:

balconybash calls $.50. billpoker calls $.50.
cowboysnspurs calls $.50. naruto calls $.50.
Captain calls $.50. QQHenryQQ folds. Ranger Rick
calls $.50. UNCLEGAMBS folds. luv2poker calls $.50.
cjc010 checks.

Flop (board: Th 2d 4d):

luv2poker checks. cjc010 checks. balconybash
checks. billpoker checks. cowboysnspurs bets $5.
naruto calls $5. Captain folds. Ranger Rick calls
$5. luv2poker goes all-in for $74.97. cjc010 folds.
balconybash folds. billpoker folds. cowboysnspurs
goes all-in for $20.10. naruto goes all-in for
$30.15. Ranger Rick goes all-in for $73. luv2poker
is returned $1.97 (uncalled).

Turn (board: Th 2d 4d Qd):

(no action in this round)


River (board: Th 2d 4d Qd 6s):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

luv2poker shows 4h 4s.
luv2poker has 4h 4s Th 4d Qd: three fours.
cowboysnspurs shows Ac As.
cowboysnspurs has Ac As Th Qd 6s: a pair of aces.
naruto shows 2s 2c.
naruto has 2s 2c Th 2d Qd: three deuces.
Ranger Rick shows Kh Kd.
Ranger Rick has Kh Kd Th Qd 6s: a pair of kings.


Hand #144991-1082 Summary:

$3 is raked from a total pot of $200.25.
$3 is raked from the main pot of $84.40.
$0 is raked from side pot #1 of $30.15.
$0 is raked from side pot #2 of $85.70.
luv2poker wins the main pot $81.40 with three fours.
luv2poker wins side pot #1 $30.15 with three fours.
luv2poker wins side pot #2 $85.70 with three fours. </pre><hr>

[RollaJ]

ya its a tough fold, but you probably knew you were beat when one guy over bet the pot, others called, and then this guy went all inbut, hey at least 2 other people made worse calls

[Hung]

The reason why I love limit games:
I'm learning. I want to be able to win at limit games.
Because by the time I go to vegas, I'll have to play limit...


<pre><font class="small">code:</font><hr> Hand #144889-2943 at New Orleans ($1/$2 Hold'em)
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Started at 16/May/03 14:11:17

ElGordoDiblo is at seat 0 with $17.25.
AcesOverK is at seat 1 with $62.75.
banker is at seat 2 with $103.
HeyLefty is at seat 3 with $52.25.
jcaj518 is at seat 4 with $40.75.
naruto is at seat 5 with $98.75.
The button is at seat 1.

banker posts the small blind of $.50.
HeyLefty posts the big blind of $1.

ElGordoDiblo: -- --
AcesOverK: -- --
banker: -- --
HeyLefty: -- --
jcaj518: -- --
naruto: 2d 2c

Pre-flop:

jcaj518 calls $1. naruto raises to $2. ElGordoDiblo
folds. AcesOverK folds. banker calls $2. HeyLefty
folds. jcaj518 calls $2.

Flop (board: 2s Ts 3c):

banker bets $1. jcaj518 folds. naruto calls $1.

Turn (board: 2s Ts 3c Ac):

banker bets $2. naruto raises to $4. banker calls
$4.

River (board: 2s Ts 3c Ac 4d):

banker bets $2. naruto raises to $4. banker
re-raises to $6. naruto calls $6.



Showdown:

banker shows 5s 6s.
banker has 5s 6s 2s 3c 4d: straight, six high.
naruto mucks cards.
(naruto has 2d 2c.)


Hand #144889-2943 Summary:

$1 is raked from a pot of $29.
banker wins $28 with straight, six high. </pre><hr>

[RollaJ]

what the heck are you doing raising preflop with pocket deuces?

[Hung]

Because I can keep betting and they'll fold. It works almost every time. I keep betting and rasing with pockets and they just fold. Strange but true. You'll believe me if you try it. 6 handed table at UB. I've won a lot this way. This time that guy got me big time... I thought he had double pair aces. Can't believe he called my raise and then bets on the flop with nothing...

[Mike Haven]

he called the pre-flop bet because he had sooted connectors and was getting 3 to 1, probably 3.7 to 1, pot odds - you could argue that wasn't enough for him, but sooted connectors have a huge following

once he flopped a 13-outer draw he was there to the river, as would you have been

betting the flop is an accepted strategy to create the pot needed so he could call a turn bet if he didn't hit his flush or straight, and to build the pot in case he did

the turn bet was a semi-bluff using the Ace as a scare-card, but he was also getting very good pot odds for his 2.5 to 1 big draw

he was "lucky" to hit his straight, but if he had hit the flush you would probably have accepted the beat without too much thought

i'm not sure you should have raised his river bet

bad luck, hung

[adam74]

So why not just keep betting and raising with any two cards whenever it takes your fancy? If they always fold, it doesn't matter what you've got. /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif