OT: I am going to play all day so I can pwm the empire leaderboard.

[FieryJustice]

Well, I today...or yesterday, i guess we should call it, was a horrible day. It was a nice -$3000 one. I havent went to sleep yet and I am hungry, so I am going to go to whataburger, get some food, drink and do some coke and come back home and play sngs til midnight. So, to all the 215ers out there...please stay off my tables so I can at least break even. Also, to anyone else who wants to play all day, feel free to post meaningless results here. I will do the same at midnight. Hopefully I dont fall asleep.

[FieryJustice]

Well, 0/0/0/4 after the first set, losing to 2 3 outers, a coin flip and me having a 2 outer. If I am down 8 buyins after 16 games, I am quitting for a week.

[The once and future king]

Move away from the keyboard immediately.

[FieryJustice]

That would be the smart thing to do.

but the good news is you're in texas, and you have whataburger there to drown your sorrows in.

god I loves me some breakfast taquitos.

[FieryJustice]

It looks like I am going to be cutting it short, as I am 0/0/1/6 right now mostly due to idiots with 3 outers.

yeah, sounds like a good time to hit le hay

[FieryJustice]

Well, I am 1/1/2/8 right now, so down the rake, which isnt too bad, considering i was expecting to be down 8 buyins right now. Too bad the tables arent filling up. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[llabb]

Nice recovery. If the tables aren't filling anyway, perhaps get some sleep?

Didn't you say you haven't slept yet...but you plan on playing all day until Friday midnight? Why pull an all-nighter if you don't need to? 40 hours awake straight = no fun.

[FieryJustice]

I am fine with no sleep. I am not fine losing my ass though. So, if it gets bad, I will go to bed. Until then though, i'm grinding it out.

push throught that crap, and go to sleep happy, realizing that good variance is wishing you a good nights sleep.

[llabb]

Really? What's the longest you can go without it affecting your game? Most people, it's only 16-20 hours.

Me, I start getting fuzzy around hours 20-22, then get a second wind and can do another 16 or so. But I prefer not to, and besides, during hours 20-22, my game would be seriously compromised.

[FieryJustice]

I dont know...and i'm not going to find out today because i'm losing my ass. So, its time for sleep as soon as I lose these 2 I am still in. It is nice to know that you lost money and cant even play for 20 hours. What a bitch I am.

Oh yeah...I know why I am losing....I have no fold equity and when I get called, which is quite often, I either lose to a 3 outer or fail to win a coin flip, and thats enough to make me lose. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[llabb]

I've found myself in the same spot this week. I'm taking a little one-day break, because I am down almost 20 buy-ins this week. Same old crap. Can't win a coin flip, all-in pocket overpairs cracked by pocket underpairs, flopped straights getting busted by the runner-runner flushes, yadda yadda yadda.

I've refrained from venting on this forum, but since I see that you're in the same boat, I just felt like sharing. Just gotta push through it, I guess. Just the other side of variance punishing me for the heater I was on the previous two weeks.

[runner4life7]

I know you dont need to be told this, but in time those bastards with 3 outers pay you. I took some of those same hits yesterday, granted it was the 22s so its just a "little" different. Good luck with swinging it back around. I have found yelling LUCKBOX while all in helps me win a lot more.

[The once and future king]

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Really? What's the longest you can go without it affecting your game? Most people, it's only 16-20 hours.


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So your saying that "most" players can start playing at 12pm and play through to 6-8am the next day with out it affecting there play. Please suply empirical data contradicting every major study into sleep deprivation.

This is not the place to be geustimating numbers out of your ass and posting them as fact.

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This is not the place to be geustimating numbers out of your ass and posting them as fact.

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Supbro hates people that geustimate anything.

Holla.

[2Fast2Furious]

if it helps any I lost $33 last night after coming in 4th, 4th and 5th on the 11s......

Hang in there bro you'll come back!

[citanul]

when you wake up, go outdoors.

citanul

[Gramps]

I'm taking most of the day off, so I will be no leaderboard threat. I'm hope you're talking about the kind that fizzes and that you drink through a straw...

[pokerlaw]

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I'm hope you're talking about the kind that fizzes and that you drink through a straw...

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lol. my thoughts exactly.

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if it helps any I lost $33 last night after coming in 4th, 4th and 5th on the 11s......

Hang in there bro you'll come back!

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I feel your pain.

[Maulik]

since i'm curious I'll ask

drink and do some coke

cocaine?

[FieryJustice]

I was kidding about the coke. I am getting back to the grind and probably wont stop til midnight tonight unless it gets really bad.

[citanul]

jesus christ dude, go outside.

citanul

[2Fast2Furious]

too late - he's totally committed at this point! You go boy!!!

[psyduck]

well uhh i dropped 15 buy-ins yesterday too over 34 SNGs, but that was at the 33s.

I feel your pain ^_^ oh wait wrong smiley /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[FieryJustice]

I went outside for about 20 seconds, but the sun hurt my eyes. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[ace_in_the_hole]

Good luck man, I like reading your blog so hopefully you will update after this little marathon seesion. Also shouldn't you be happy that people are putting all their money in the middle drawign to 3 outs at the $215's? I mean it does suck to lose but you make it sound like you are mad at the players and not the deck.

Take 1 buy in and call an escort service. you should feel refreshed after an hour or so. I bet it does wonders for you!

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This is not the place to be geustimating numbers out of your ass and posting them as fact.

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Supbro hates people that geustimate anything.

Holla.

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Am I the only one who found this Extremly funny?

[FieryJustice]

Whores are a good idea...Anyways, the first set was a nice 1/2/1/0. So...if they stay like that, I will by up $30,000 by the end of the day. If not, I will break even. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Also, I figured i'd post this hand, as it pretty much sums up what is happening to me...people make 1 bad play then make another, then draw out on me. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

**** Hand History for Game 2802567582 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Trny:16210482 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Friday, September 30, 18:44:25 EDT 2005
Table Table 11783 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: chairman_m ( $1390 )
Seat 2: Red_Orchid ( $1035 )
Seat 3: PaulMokeski ( $1825 )
Seat 4: blaydzfsteel ( $635 )
Seat 5: bigbarbe222 ( $615 )
Seat 7: FieryJustice ( $880 )
Seat 8: SlavikMazda ( $1015 )
Seat 9: Dopeydaddy ( $2605 )
Trny:16210482 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FieryJustice [ Ac Ks ]
Dopeydaddy folds.
chairman_m folds.
Red_Orchid folds.
PaulMokeski folds.
blaydzfsteel folds.
bigbarbe222 raises [175].
FieryJustice is all-In [855]
SlavikMazda folds.
bigbarbe222 is all-In [440]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 6h, 6s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
bigbarbe222 shows [ 4c, 5s ] two pairs, sixes and fives.
FieryJustice shows [ Ac, Ks ] a pair of sixes.
FieryJustice wins 265 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of sixes.
bigbarbe222 wins 1280 chips from the main pot with two pairs, sixes and fives.

Sorry for whining. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

At least they didnt find a way to win the side pot on ya too /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Mr_J]

Drinking through a straw is pretty feminine/homosexual.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.... /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[llabb]

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So your saying that "most" players can start playing at 12pm and play through to 6-8am the next day with out it affecting there play. Please suply empirical data contradicting every major study into sleep deprivation.

This is not the place to be geustimating numbers out of your ass and posting them as fact.

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I was talking about being awake. This is not a guesstimate. Most people are awake 16-20 hours before it starts affecting them mentally. In fact, most people are awake 16-20 hours per day period. This is empirically verifiable and common sense. I was not talking about playing for 20 hours straight. I understand it was unclear from the post, but that is what was implied by the flow of the thread, from 2 people posting very late at night/early in the morning.

Please stop being an @$$hole and simply correct the error if you feel there has been one, without inappropriately insulting the poster, especially when you are wrong.



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Supbro hates people that geustimate anything.

Holla.

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This, however, was quite amusing. On many levels.

[FieryJustice]

well, I am basically back to where I started after losing a ton of games all to idiots with 3 outers. Also, people have been loving the coin flips today, which I cant seem to win also. Hopefully it will turn around.

[Chaostracize]

It's a good thing you have your priorities set straight. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ace_in_the_hole]

Fiery,
How many $215's have you played to date? What are your ROI and ITM, if you don;t mind me asking.

[FieryJustice]

6000 or so with about 7% roi.

[FieryJustice]

Well, I am done for tonight, I think. I ended up going 4/9/6/31...not too great, but it is profit. I am going on a cruise tomorrow with my family for a week so I will be gone. Hopefully everyone will have good luck while I am gone. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[psyduck]

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4/9/6/31

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Jesus christ. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[The once and future king]

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In fact, most people are awake 16-20 hours per day period. This is empirically verifiable and common sense

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Man, stop just stop. That range is just hogwash geustimation again. It is not at all common for people to be able to function properly on 4 hours sleep a night. Some can, but they are very rair. So your range 16-20 hours where 8 hours sleep a day is the max and 4 the min is just ridiculous. The range is actualy 13-17 or 7-9 hours. This is the amount that Most people sleep and has been empiricaly verified.

End of thread hijack.

[Nick B.]

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4/9/6/31

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Jesus christ. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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That is OOTM, not just bubble.

[Newt_Buggs]

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Well, I am done for tonight, I think. I ended up going 4/9/6/31...not too great, but it is profit. I am going on a cruise tomorrow with my family for a week so I will be gone. Hopefully everyone will have good luck while I am gone. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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You mean you're going to leave the fish all to me? Oh well, congrats on actually taking a break.

[llabb]

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4/9/6/31

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Jesus christ. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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That is OOTM, not just bubble.

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This is also 9.8% ROI and 11.9% ROI after RB, which is great. Congrats, Fiery, and enjoy your vacation!



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Man, stop just stop. That range is just hogwash geustimation again.

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TOAF-King, I do not intend to enter a flaming war with you. I have responded in kind when provoked, and apologize if I have said too much. Please stop trolling and looking to provoke me. The data supports what I have said, and this is a trivial issue that is not worthy of discussion. There was no point attacking a brief OT statement made in a discussion you were not even involved in.

Since you seem to want the data, though, here is one source I quickly googled: National Sleep Foundation's 2005 Sleep in America Summary of Findings (http://www.sleepfoundation.org/_content/hottopics/2005_summary_of_findings.pdf/).
During the week, on average, 71% of Americans are awake 16+ hrs/day. The data is even stronger when broken down further into the demographic of this forum, which is primarily young males. Besides which, I was originally talking about how long people can stay awake in a one-day period, before it affects them mentally, which is obviously a longer time span than the average amount of normal sleep one gets.

If you have anything further to say on this matter, please take it to PM's, and I will respond if it has merit.

Honestly, move down a level.

[AA suited]

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Whores are a good idea...Anyways, the first set was a nice 1/2/1/0. So...if they stay like that, I will by up $30,000 by the end of the day. If not, I will break even. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Also, I figured i'd post this hand, as it pretty much sums up what is happening to me...people make 1 bad play then make another, then draw out on me. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

**** Hand History for Game 2802567582 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Trny:16210482 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Friday, September 30, 18:44:25 EDT 2005
Table Table 11783 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: chairman_m ( $1390 )
Seat 2: Red_Orchid ( $1035 )
Seat 3: PaulMokeski ( $1825 )
Seat 4: blaydzfsteel ( $635 )
Seat 5: bigbarbe222 ( $615 )
Seat 7: FieryJustice ( $880 )
Seat 8: SlavikMazda ( $1015 )
Seat 9: Dopeydaddy ( $2605 )
Trny:16210482 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FieryJustice [ Ac Ks ]
Dopeydaddy folds.
chairman_m folds.
Red_Orchid folds.
PaulMokeski folds.
blaydzfsteel folds.
bigbarbe222 raises [175].
FieryJustice is all-In [855]
SlavikMazda folds.
bigbarbe222 is all-In [440]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 6h, 6s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
bigbarbe222 shows [ 4c, 5s ] two pairs, sixes and fives.
FieryJustice shows [ Ac, Ks ] a pair of sixes.
FieryJustice wins 265 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of sixes.
bigbarbe222 wins 1280 chips from the main pot with two pairs, sixes and fives.

Sorry for whining. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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WTF?! calls all in preflop for all his chips with 45o at Lvl3?!

This is a $215?!

[AA suited]

BTW- I can't find the Empire Leaderboard page?! Link pls?

And what do you get for making the Leaderboard on Empire?

[citanul]

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Honestly, move down a level.

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why do you think he should do that? do you think he'd clearly have a >15% roi at the 109s?

citanul

[bjb23]

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BTW- I can't find the Empire Leaderboard page?! Link pls?

And what do you get for making the Leaderboard on Empire?

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i think this (http://www.epvip.com/showMaster.htm) should work. and at the bottom of this page there is a link for details on the "tournament masters."

hopefully that works. if you have the empire client, its in
options-tournament masters-"click here to see tournament masters leaderboard"

bj

[FieryJustice]

..I was wondering the same thing. I thought 10% was pretty good. Also, here is a link to the leaderboard. Sorry, but I suck at computers and dont know how to make it look all pretty.

http://www.epvip.com/showMaster.htm

I am thinking this link will only be good for about one day though.

[AA suited]

Formula = SQRT {B}*(TN)/R

SQRT= Square root
B= Buy-In of a tournament
TN=Total Number Of players in a tournament
R=player's Rank in a Tournament.

so buy-in doesnt matter that much since they take the Square root. (50+5 = 7points, 200+15 = 14 points.)

It's basically what place you finish in the tourny.

oh, and the # of tournys you play.

WTF?! Fiery, you're #1 multiple times?! How many SnGs do you play a month?!

[AA suited]

darn it.. why couldnt it be top 75 instead of top 50 /images/graemlins/frown.gif