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09-30-2005, 04:09 AM
What effect does the High rake have in micro limit hold em. In most of the games below 3/6 I have noticed that the rake can be as high as a small bet. Over the long run how much does this effect the expectation of sound play. I know in big games the rake is usually never more the 4 to 5 dollors and is a smaller % than micro's.
09-30-2005, 05:22 AM
The rake equates to about 2.5-3bb per hundred hands for me. It's a bitch.
09-30-2005, 06:52 AM
Find a good rakeback deal.
Solitare
09-30-2005, 08:58 AM
Write your congressman to get online poker legalized in the US. The increased competition from the big casino/gaming companies entering the market will, among many other positive changes, drive down rakes.
testaaja
09-30-2005, 09:12 AM
Yeah I've seen this effect. The pot gets around 3.7$~ and the rake goes OVER 1bb when the limit is $0.25/$0.5 . If I watch these 0.5$/1$ games there is no such a big rake. I got to get up there /images/graemlins/grin.gif
Webster
09-30-2005, 09:24 AM
For me rake is normally about 2 to 2.5BB/100. Not a big deal since you really have no choice do you. It IS a big deal for loose players but for good tight players it's not a factor.
09-30-2005, 10:03 AM
For me, at the 6max .50/1.00 tables at partypoker, the rake is coming out to 5 BB/100. Ouch. Luckily, the amount I make in bonuses from party and skins makes up for it.
RatFink
09-30-2005, 11:06 AM
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It IS a big deal for loose players but for good tight players it's not a factor.

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It is a big deal for overly tight players as well.
Webster
09-30-2005, 11:28 AM
For overly tight players the blind is more of a problem then the rake.

Why would the rake be bad for overly tight guys (not arguing - just looking for insite).
RatFink
09-30-2005, 11:38 AM
You are right that their true problem is overcoming the cost of the blinds. My thoughts were that the rake is probably the borderline between profitablity and break-even when you are just staying ahead of the blinds.
DCWildcat
09-30-2005, 12:17 PM
True...but the tight player should be adjusting his play with the blind structure. You could do some, but not too many, adjustments to compensate for different rake amounts.
Guthrie
09-30-2005, 12:47 PM
Move up.
livinitup0
10-01-2005, 12:53 PM
Depends on the site for rake. Party used to be an average of half a SB on their .50/1 tables. Not now. Absolute and Pokerstars have better rake.
Rev. Good Will
10-01-2005, 12:55 PM
good thread with rake stats (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3008696&page=&view=&sb=5& o=&fpart=all&vc=1)