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09-29-2005, 08:03 PM
***** Hand History for Game 2796379899 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 16177669) - Thu Sep 29 16:41:18 EDT 2005
Table Table 12036 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: jcmoneybags (1800)
Seat 7: JohnSmiley24 (2335)
Seat 8: stayls24 (2040)
Seat 9: McShove (1715)
Seat 10: Guru1671 (2110)
jcmoneybags posts small blind (100)
JohnSmiley24 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to McShove [ Qs, Qc ]
stayls24 folds.
McShove raises (500) to 500
Guru1671 folds.
jcmoneybags raises (900) to 1000
JohnSmiley24 folds.
Mcshove ???


No specific read on villain, seems like a solid player who has a good understanding of bubble play. Has not minraised like this thus far in the tournament. What hands do you put him on, and what's your play? (I believe you could make arguments for folding, calling, or pushing, but am interested to hear the forums responses.

Ogre
09-29-2005, 08:09 PM
push pf

call if I played it like you did

Nicholasp27
09-29-2005, 08:12 PM
u had <10bbs

shoulda just pushed in the first place

why raise to 30% of your chips just to fold? and lose fe in the process if u now push after they reraise?

09-29-2005, 08:19 PM
Is everyone pushing the preflop? I dont' mind getting a call from SB or BB, and then possibly folding if an A or K hits the flop. If they make top pair after a call, you will stack them.

Ogre
09-29-2005, 08:23 PM
I hate anything but a push pf

Nicholasp27
09-29-2005, 08:23 PM
i'd think so
the general rule is not to raise if u have <10bbs...push or fold

09-29-2005, 08:26 PM
not be arrogant in any way....but i have had much success in the 109's (~20 ROI >700 played) not being aware of, or following, this rule. Perhaps this is a leak in my game?

Nicholasp27
09-29-2005, 08:31 PM
i think it's a leak
u are giving up a lot of FE by raising instead of pushing here
and lots of flops will make u fold qq after investing 30% of ur stack