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ilya
09-29-2005, 01:54 PM
Soooo, I just asked someone here whether I should value-bet this river, and he surprised me by saying that he folds the turn. I think I'm ahead real often on the turn, & as a little extra bonus I have a few more outs than usual thanks to my gutshot.
He also said he bets the flop and I think he's right about that, I should bet flop here.

***** Hand History for Game 2795575340 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:16174357 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, September 29, 13:25:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 13810 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: fritske ( $715 )
Seat 4: jaymann89 ( $800 )
Seat 5: patti511 ( $1060 )
Seat 6: gr1946 ( $715 )
Seat 10: WIDOCMIKE ( $815 )
Seat 8: aceace1212 ( $800 )
Seat 3: BeE23 ( $785 )
Seat 1: harrybills ( $720 )
Seat 9: StneColdCall ( $790 )
Seat 7: DuneGoat ( $800 )
Trny:16174357 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to StneColdCall [ Td Ts ]
patti511 folds.
gr1946 folds.
DuneGoat folds.
aceace1212 folds.
StneColdCall calls [15].
WIDOCMIKE folds.
harrybills folds.
fritske folds.
BeE23 calls [5].
jaymann89 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 9d, Kc ]
BeE23 checks.
jaymann89 checks.
StneColdCall checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
BeE23 checks.
jaymann89 bets [55].
StneColdCall calls [55].
BeE23 folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 5d ]
jaymann89 checks.
StneColdCall checks.

Sabrazack
09-29-2005, 01:58 PM
I would bet the flop here with the passiveness people have shown. Since you didn't i would definately call the turn. And i don't think i'm valuebetting the river. I just don't think its profitable.

wuwei
09-29-2005, 02:13 PM
I would have open raised rather than open limp pf, but there's no need to dwell on that...

The flop bet is a must. I've been working a lot lately in STTs and MTTs on using position to pick up pots nobody wants, and this a prime spot. All you're facing is the blinds, and they have given you zero reasons to think they like their hand. Take it down.

I would have called the turn as well, and I check behind on the river. A straight draw got there, which he might have or it could stop him from leading a hand that beats you.

wiggs73
09-29-2005, 02:24 PM
I'd bet the flop, as others have said. Given that you checked though, I like your line on the rest of the hand.

Chaostracize
09-29-2005, 03:13 PM
Bet flop. Call, fold, or raise turn, none are horrible. Check through river.