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maranello11
09-28-2005, 12:12 PM
Have only played 30 hands or so, so not much info on Villian. I feel the check was bad on the turn, anyone lead turn, or do something different?


Seat 1: Hero ( $497.10)
Seat 6: spisaren ( $404.20)
Seat 8: amh28 ( $963.50)
Seat 9: erlved ( $105.90)
Seat 10: WhaaataBLUFF ( $454.65)
erlved posts small blind (2)
Hero posts big blind (4)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero[ Kc, Ah ]
YouHeDad folds.
Lamnidae folds.
spisaren calls (4)
Gadsden_ folds.
amh28 calls (4)
erlved folds.
Hero raises (16) to 20
spisaren calls (16)
amh28 calls (16)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5c, 7s, Ac ]

Hero bets (60)
Villian calls (60)
amh28 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Tc ]
Hero checks.
Villian(324.20)
is all-In.

Whats the play, did I screw myself with not betting the turn, or was that the right play

Thanks

98romaine
09-28-2005, 12:44 PM
half pot bet on the turn, call his push, hit your club on the river.

Lucky
09-28-2005, 12:51 PM
Gotta bet turn, makes it easier to call his raise. You're 4 to 1 against hitting flush on river (less if he's got two clubs, but oh well), and your getting better than 3 to 1 for your money when you call his turn raise all in.

Big_Jim
09-30-2005, 04:35 PM
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Gotta bet turn, makes it easier to call his raise.

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While I do think that you should bet the turn, this is only part of the rationale. The other important fact is that it is typically for value, since there are many worse hands that can call here without odds to improve, and you might not get them to call if you do hit your club on the river.

As played, you gotta fold.

amoeba
09-30-2005, 04:39 PM
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Gotta bet turn, makes it easier to call his raise. You're 4 to 1 against hitting flush on river (less if he's got two clubs, but oh well), and your getting better than 3 to 1 for your money when you call his turn raise all in.

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this is horrible logic. so lets say I have K2 preflop and I know my opponent has KK, should I bet 90% of my stack so I am priced in to call his raise?

Kirkrrr
09-30-2005, 04:47 PM
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so lets say I have K2 preflop and I know my opponent has KK, should I bet 90% of my stack so I am priced in to call his raise?

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Absolutely.

amoeba
09-30-2005, 04:53 PM
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so lets say I have K2 preflop and I know my opponent has KK, should I bet 90% of my stack so I am priced in to call his raise?

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Absolutely.

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so why aren't you betting 90% of your stack every hand?

Big_Jim
09-30-2005, 05:52 PM
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so why aren't you betting 90% of your stack every hand?

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I will have to look into this.