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JcTc

09-27-2005, 06:49 PM

There's a girl that I met this semester in one of my classes who is pretty smoking hot. I am 50/50 on whether she wants to bone or just be friends, as she has made a few drunk calls to me, flirted, etc.

Would it be immoral to tell said girl, when she asks what I am doing tonight, that an ex-girlfriend is coming over to hang out and watch movies? In reality I'm just going to do homework and maybe whack it to some girl-on-girl scenes on Nip/Tuck. She would not find this out. Good or bad to create some possible jealousy?

Voltron87

09-27-2005, 06:54 PM

weak sauce

swede123

09-27-2005, 06:58 PM

How about growing a pair and asking her out on a date tonight. You can make your move and at least this way you'll find out where you stand. Now how hard was that?

Swede

Dominic

09-27-2005, 06:58 PM

play the game..nothing wrong with giving off an impression of popularity and "heat."

I say go for it....and kinda give her the impression some ex-sex will be had....

RunDownHouse

09-27-2005, 07:00 PM

I don't have any links to back it up, but the second I finished reading your post I though, "This guy has to be 16. He consistently gives horrible, awful relationship advice."

So. a/s/l?

tdarko

09-27-2005, 07:13 PM

i did this in high school.

taking a hot girl (that you weren't dating but as friends) to a party to impress a chick that you wanted to date.

but then i realized girls think this is stupid and see through it. i realized this when i walked outside to the backyard and she was in the hot tub with our QB/close friend of mine.

moral: she too can play the game.

EDIT: we ended up dating for 3 years.

ucfryan

09-27-2005, 07:14 PM

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How about growing a pair and asking her out on a date tonight. You can make your move and at least this way you'll find out where you stand. Now how hard was that?

Swede

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tdarko

09-27-2005, 07:15 PM

listen RDH his advice is consistant, sometimes brutally truthful but always consistant.

bernie

09-27-2005, 07:25 PM

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Would it be immoral to tell said girl, when she asks what I am doing tonight, that an ex-girlfriend

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It's not really a turn on that you'd still be hanging out with an ex watching movies.

Do you need a bigger sign in front of you to tell her to get over to your place, clothes optional? Especially if she's drunk. Jesus, what are you waiting for? When she's finally blowing you are you going to look down and seriously say, "So I guess you want to have sex, huh?"

Pound it.

If she comes over and shows no signs, (it may actually take a couple times to finally get her) other than just hanging out, see ya. THEN you're busy with some other slut that's coming over to see a flick. Again, not an ex. Then you set up the raincheck date. Bring condoms.

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bernie

09-27-2005, 07:25 PM

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How about growing a pair and asking her out on a date tonight. You can make your move and at least this way you'll find out where you stand. Now how hard was that?

Swede

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It really does save alot of time and BS doing that, doesn't it? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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theben

09-27-2005, 07:31 PM

yes it would be unethical, from a morally idealistic standpoint. however, girls are well trained liars and she probably throws more BS at you than you would at her, even if you do your test. i say fire back with all you got. girls in the college age havent yet earned the right to be treated with honesty and respect

kyro

09-27-2005, 07:31 PM

I am the biggest pussy around and even I would ask this chick out. But going the long way risking any chance with her works well too.

09-27-2005, 07:34 PM

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Jesus, what are you waiting for? When she's finally blowing you are you going to look down and seriously say, "So I guess you want to have sex, huh?"

Pound it.

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lol

ethan

09-27-2005, 07:49 PM

jakethebake

09-27-2005, 07:50 PM

Unnecessary. Girls don't make drunk calls to guys unless they already want them.

Yeti

09-27-2005, 07:59 PM

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I don't have any links to back it up, but the second I finished reading your post I though, "This guy has to be 16. He consistently gives horrible, awful relationship advice."

So. a/s/l?

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You must have missed the one where he banged Jenna Jameson.

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Brilliant.

jakethebake

09-27-2005, 08:13 PM

siccjay

09-27-2005, 08:47 PM

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play the game..nothing wrong with giving off an impression of popularity and "heat."

I say go for it....and kinda give her the impression some ex-sex will be had....

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This is actually good advice, but so is just [censored] ask her out.

STLantny

09-27-2005, 08:50 PM

jakethebake

09-27-2005, 08:51 PM

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play the game..nothing wrong with giving off an impression of popularity and "heat."

I say go for it....and kinda give her the impression some ex-sex will be had....

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Wtf? Why do people act like this? "Play the game"??? Just be yourself. Be confident. You don't have to play games to get girls. It's idiotic.

stabn

09-27-2005, 08:54 PM

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play the game..nothing wrong with giving off an impression of popularity and "heat."

I say go for it....and kinda give her the impression some ex-sex will be had....

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Wtf? Why do people act like this? "Play the game"??? Just be yourself. Be confident. You don't have to play games to get girls. It's idiotic.

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Maybe that worked back in your day pops...

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STLantny

09-27-2005, 08:54 PM

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play the game..nothing wrong with giving off an impression of popularity and "heat."

I say go for it....and kinda give her the impression some ex-sex will be had....

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Wtf? Why do people act like this? "Play the game"??? Just be yourself. Be confident. You SHOULDN'T have to play games to get girls. It's idiotic.

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What should and should not happen, is way different than what has to and what has to not happen.

jakethebake

09-27-2005, 09:00 PM

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What should and should not happen, is way different than what has to and what has to not happen.

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BS. Guys get pissed at girls for playing games and then act as stupid or stupider than they do. Just find a girl you like and show her you're confident and good to her.

STLantny

09-27-2005, 09:03 PM

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What should and should not happen, is way different than what has to and what has to not happen.

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BS. Guys get pissed at girls for playing games and then act as stupid or stupider than they do. Just find a girl you like and show her you're confident and good to her.

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Yes, I agree with that, if you are looking for some sort of relationship, but eh, who needs that right now. I got pissed at first, and then I learned how to have fun with it.

jakethebake

09-27-2005, 09:07 PM

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Yes, I agree with that, if you are looking for some sort of relationship, but eh, who needs that right now. I got pissed at first, and then I learned how to have fun with it.

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I'm not talking about a relationship. But playing a bunch of stupid games isn't fun to me.

M2d

09-27-2005, 09:10 PM

Jesus, this is OOT and there is only one answer: get drunk, then call her.

damn newbies.

STLantny

09-27-2005, 09:12 PM

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Yes, I agree with that, if you are looking for some sort of relationship, but eh, who needs that right now. I got pissed at first, and then I learned how to have fun with it.

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I'm not talking about a relationship. But playing a bunch of stupid games isn't fun to me.

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It just a lie, that will help him out in the future. Girls are like playing chess, you act now, with hopefully little consequences, so you can have the upper hand in the futre...when it matters. Just dont go overboard with crap like this, and its not a big deal, imo.

STLantny

09-27-2005, 09:15 PM

PS- I answered the question you asked, unlike everyone else in this thread, who said ask her out (because that doesnt make sense- as you CAN do both, if you wanted, and the lie is only going to help a bit). But, you are in if she called YOU when drunk, so yes, eventually, ask her out.

peachy

09-27-2005, 09:16 PM

saying an ex is lame...if ur gonna do this say a "girl" and play it off CASUALLY....

if a guy told me an ex was coming over...id be like wow thats all he can get??, he cant let go of a past, he goes back to old ass, etc etc i could go on and on....

some girls are different though, but for me an ex coming over wouldnt make me jealous at all and would be some what of a turn off

i think u should just ask her out...if u have to make her jealous to even think about dating u shes not gonna stay around long b/c its just a game to her - ur gonna bore her fast - but if ur ok with just a little ass MAYBE then do what u want...relationships are over-rated anyway!

STLantny

09-27-2005, 09:18 PM

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saying an ex is lame...if ur gonna do this say a "girl"

if a guy told me an ex was coming over...id be like wow thats all he can get, he cant let go of a past, he goes back to old ass, etc etc i could go on and on....

some girls are different though, but for me an ex coming over wouldnt make me jealous at all and would be some what of a turn off

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Ya, that is a good point, I would never use that persnoally, because, well, Ive never had an "ex".

Dominic

09-27-2005, 09:45 PM

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I don't have any links to back it up, but the second I finished reading your post I though, "This guy has to be 16. He consistently gives horrible, awful relationship advice."

So. a/s/l?

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LOL....

1, who said anything about a relationship? He wants to hook up with a chick. Nothing wrong with laying a few little white lies if it'll get you laid. And guesswhat? It works.

2, I'm 42...live in Vegas and am engaged to be married. I'llput my 25 years experience in the dating world up against whatever you got, any day.

Girls don't want Mr. Nice Guy. They want you be a little bit of an azzhole. If you're not, you don't get laid.

And once you're ready to settle down, THEN you can be Mr. Sensitivity for the woman you love. But not until you see her naked.

It's hilarious how clueless you are about women. Stop watching Oprah and trying to be "friends" with the girls you want to bang. It doesn't work.

STLantny

09-27-2005, 09:48 PM

I think I may have went to the same, school of how to have a good time in life, as you Dominic.

otis_nixon

09-27-2005, 09:50 PM

WACKING OFF INSTEAD OF NAILING HOT CHICK IS DEFINETLY A GOOD CHOICE.

SMART THINKING, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

ethan

09-27-2005, 09:50 PM

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I think I may have went to the same, school of how to have a good time in life, as you Dominic.

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That depends. How many years did you spend directing porn?

STLantny

09-27-2005, 09:51 PM

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I think I may have went to the same, school of how to have a good time in life, as you Dominic.

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That depends. How many years did you spend directing porn?

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Woah, Dominic directed porn? Awesome.

Dominic

09-27-2005, 09:55 PM

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play the game..nothing wrong with giving off an impression of popularity and "heat."

I say go for it....and kinda give her the impression some ex-sex will be had....

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This is actually good advice, but so is just [censored] ask her out.

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I agree. Either play the Game or be the Dude who just doesn't give a fuk whether she says yes or no. And ask her out.

But don't do it in a "Gee, what are you doing Friday night? I was hoping we could get together and watch a WNBA game together. Those girls really could give the men in the NBA a real run for their money, don't you agree?" way.

Instead, just ask her if she likes something: a certain bar, restaurant, etc. Then inform her you're going to be there ALREADY at such-and-such a time on this date. If she'd like to join you, great. You see, in her mind, YOU ARE ALREADY DOING SOMETHING COOL WITH OR WITHOUT HER. Basically, she's superfluous to you having a good time.

Chicks respond to this. You're not pinning your whole Saturday night on if she says yes or no. Don't give her that power! Take control!

"I'm gonna be at the Star Bar on Sunset tonight...stop by and maybe we'll have a drink." subtitles: (Or don't. I don't really care. I'll be out having fun anyways.

Trust me. This works.

Dominic

09-27-2005, 09:57 PM

Dominic

09-27-2005, 09:59 PM

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Yes, I agree with that, if you are looking for some sort of relationship, but eh, who needs that right now. I got pissed at first, and then I learned how to have fun with it.

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I'm not talking about a relationship. But playing a bunch of stupid games isn't fun to me.

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It just a lie, that will help him out in the future. Girls are like playing chess, you act now, with hopefully little consequences, so you can have the upper hand in the futre...when it matters. Just dont go overboard with crap like this, and its not a big deal, imo.

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amen. I'm not saying create a whole charade. Just have some good, common-sense Salesmanship.

Dominic

09-27-2005, 10:00 PM

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saying an ex is lame...if ur gonna do this say a "girl" and play it off CASUALLY....

if a guy told me an ex was coming over...id be like wow thats all he can get??, he cant let go of a past, he goes back to old ass, etc etc i could go on and on....

some girls are different though, but for me an ex coming over wouldnt make me jealous at all and would be some what of a turn off

i think u should just ask her out...if u have to make her jealous to even think about dating u shes not gonna stay around long b/c its just a game to her - ur gonna bore her fast - but if ur ok with just a little ass MAYBE then do what u want...relationships are over-rated anyway!

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Good points, all.

Reef

09-27-2005, 10:11 PM

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You don't have to play games to get girls. It's idiotic.

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if she wants you, she'll make it known .. then "pound it". If she's not interested, you'll know and then just move on.

Remember, women do the choosing. All you can do is recognize you've been chosen and act on it.

BobboFitos

09-27-2005, 10:15 PM

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It's hilarious how clueless you are about women. Stop watching Oprah and trying to be "friends" with the girls you want to bang. It doesn't work.

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so true

jakethebake

09-27-2005, 10:37 PM

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You don't have to play games to get girls. It's idiotic.

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if she wants you, she'll make it known .. then "pound it". If she's not interested, you'll know and then just move on.

Remember, women do the choosing. All you can do is recognize you've been chosen and act on it.

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I don't agree.