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Salva135
09-27-2005, 11:33 AM
$50 home STT. I don't know any of the players there, except that I assume most of the players there are rather good (the host, who cracked the top 200 in this year's WSOP Main Event, has an extensive network of good players who come to his games).

1500 starting chips, blinds are at 25-50.

First hand of the tournament, I'm UTG with J /images/graemlins/spade.gif J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. Not knowing anyone at the table, I decide to start cautiously, open-limping. Folds to the CO, who raises to 150. I'm the only caller.

Flop comes: 7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3 /images/graemlins/club.gif

I come firing out with a pot-sized bet of 300, which is instantly called. The turn brings a 3 /images/graemlins/heart.gif. I check. Villain thinks for about a minute, and pushes all-in for his remaining 900 or so.

What's the play here, and what is the likely range for villain? Assume no reads other than a belief that villain is likely a solid player who is likely capable of a wide variety of plays on every street.

Salva135
09-27-2005, 11:35 AM
Edit: I guess he had 1050 left.

schwza
09-27-2005, 11:38 AM
10 players 5/3/2 payout?

i'd probably call. 88-TT is less likely to raise than QQ-AA, but QQ+ can also afford to give a free card on the turn, where 88-TT cannot. plus all of the misc. total whiff hands.

i dunno... it's close. i'd have a hard time folding and probably wouldn't.

09-27-2005, 11:52 AM
It's always annoying to bust early in a home game, but I call this. I think he has A high in the hole, and if he has queens, kings or aces so be it.

nyc999
09-27-2005, 12:18 PM
Early exits in home games really do suck.

With that said, I cannot lay this down. I think you are ahead most of the time and would expect to see 88-TT or AK/AQ.

09-27-2005, 12:25 PM
Fold. Its the first hand dude.

diebitter
09-27-2005, 12:27 PM
Was he acting quite uncertain? If so, fold.

schwza
09-27-2005, 12:32 PM
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Fold. Its the first hand dude.

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crap, i forgot about the part of the payout structure where you get a quarter for every hand you're alive.

illegit
09-27-2005, 12:37 PM
Call.

brimstone1
09-27-2005, 01:14 PM
your house is rigged.

cashout and deposit into another house /images/graemlins/frown.gif

sorry, somebody had to say it.

pergesu
09-27-2005, 01:32 PM
That's the perfect flop to check-raise all-in and get donk-called by ace high. If he has an overpair he has an overpair. c'est la vie

lotus776
09-27-2005, 01:59 PM
agreed, you clearly have the advantage but must be aware of the obvious danger he could be trapping, but the likelyhood of something to the nature of A7 suited with the raise preflop is unlikely. The Quad 7s are also unlikely. All of this goes without saying, go for it call and I'd say your a favorite to win the hand. He most likely missed the flop and expected a continuation bet from you and that is why he called so quickly. In the future: jacks are jacks raise 'em to limit the field and so who has real strength. Low flop I would bet about 3/5 the pot and see where his strength is.
good luck