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Evan
09-27-2005, 08:52 AM
In a conversation with bdk3clash this morning I found out there's a good chance I don't know what canadian bacon is. I thought it was pretty much the same as ham (slightly different, but mistakable for one another). He told me I'm wrong, "Look, I'm Jewish so I'm not allowed to describe the differences but I"m pretty sure they're different."


So can someone explain to me the differences between canadian bacon, bacon and ham?

p.s. I looked up canadian bacon on wikipedia and it redirected me to the regular bacon page. :/

daveymck
09-27-2005, 08:56 AM
http://www.lutzporkstore.com/pics/canadianbacon.jpg

Looks like ham to me, unless its more similar to Gammon, I dont think what passes for bacon in the US is what passes as bacon in the UK neither.

WackityWhiz
09-27-2005, 08:57 AM
i say it's the same thing. Canadian bacon is usually flat, round, and skinny ham.

The canadian bacon on totino's pizza is small chunks of ham. just my .02

09-27-2005, 09:21 AM
"Peameal bacon is made from boneless pork loins, short cut from the leaner portions of the loin, to ensure a more uniform product. External fat is trimmed to within 1⁄8 inch. Smokeless and tender, this product is sweet pickle-cured and rolled in a traditional golden cornmeal coating, maintaining the processing tradition of real Canadian peameal bacon."

Canadian Bacon (http://www.realcanadianbacon.com/pork-tenderloin/about.htm)

sfer
09-27-2005, 09:36 AM
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He told me I'm wrong, "Look, I'm Jewish so I'm not allowed to describe the differences but I"m pretty sure they're different."


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Ahahahahaha. He also types in the PP chat when someone starts tilting, "What are outs?"

kyro
09-27-2005, 09:42 AM
Leave it to the [censored] canadians to mess up bacon, the godliest of foods.

MtSmalls
09-27-2005, 04:11 PM
Actually, every time I've been to Canada, the bacon has been out of this world. I'm talking about 'back bacon' here not the 'ham substitute'

Maple cured, way more meat and less fat. Heavenly. Canadians probably wouldn't eat the crap we call bacon...

09-27-2005, 04:21 PM
It maybe related but bacon in Australia is what Americans call ham

IndieMatty
09-27-2005, 04:24 PM
Evan, I know you like McDonalds breakfast.

Canadian Bacon is whats on the classic Egg McMuffin.

Bacon is Bacon.

Ham is (deli/roasted)Ham

Fin.

siccjay
09-27-2005, 04:25 PM
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Canadians probably wouldn't eat the crap we call bacon...

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Die.

pryor15
09-27-2005, 04:26 PM
it's a John Candy movie about going to war with Canada.

Blarg
09-27-2005, 04:29 PM
I like Canadian bacon way better. No fat, whereas ours sometimes looks like 80 or 90% fat. You can barely even see the meat on most supermarket bacon.

Gristly, often oversmoked and fake tasting nastiness.

CRF250X
09-27-2005, 04:34 PM
I'm Canadian. I can count the number of times I've eaten Canadian bacon on one hand. You just don't see it unless you go looking for it.

It's not a big tube-like piece of ham either, it's the same as your bacon except bigger, thicker, and maybe less fat.

IndieMatty
09-27-2005, 04:35 PM
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I'm Canadian. I can count the number of times I've eaten Canadian bacon on one hand. You just don't see it unless you go looking for it.

It's not a big tube-like piece of ham either, it's the same as your bacon except bigger, thicker, and maybe less fat.

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Am I correct? There's the americanized version of Canadian Bacon (the meat in a standard Egg McMuffin/Eggs Benedict) and real Canadian bacon which is posted about earlier.

krimson
09-27-2005, 04:43 PM
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Leave it to the [censored] canadians to mess up bacon, the godliest of foods.

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You know we still have regular bacon as well right? It's not like we go for breakfast and order sausages and some "thinly sliced and fried ham". Leave it to Canadians to do something smart like invent multiple types of bacon so that you can order Bacon and Bacon Pizza's.

kyro
09-27-2005, 04:45 PM
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Leave it to the [censored] canadians to mess up bacon, the godliest of foods.

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You know we still have regular bacon as well right? It's not like we go for breakfast and order sausages and some "thinly sliced and fried ham". Leave it to Canadians to do something smart like invent multiple types of bacon so that you can order Bacon and Bacon Pizza's.

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Yeah. I'm pretty sure I was making a joke based on its name. But you can go on feeling offended at my ignorance and it won't bother me, OKeh?

krimson
09-27-2005, 04:48 PM
I'm not offended. I mean, it's not like we're the ones that screwed up beer.

kyro
09-27-2005, 04:51 PM
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I'm not offended. I mean, it's not like we're the ones that screwed up beer.

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No argument there.

stabn
09-27-2005, 06:26 PM
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"Peameal bacon is made from boneless pork loins, short cut from the leaner portions of the loin, to ensure a more uniform product. External fat is trimmed to within 1⁄8 inch. Smokeless and tender, this product is sweet pickle-cured and rolled in a traditional golden cornmeal coating, maintaining the processing tradition of real Canadian peameal bacon."

Canadian Bacon (http://www.realcanadianbacon.com/pork-tenderloin/about.htm)

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This is not canadian bacon. This is bullshit passed off as canadians as canadian bacon.

phixxx
09-27-2005, 06:35 PM
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"Peameal bacon is made from boneless pork loins, short cut from the leaner portions of the loin, to ensure a more uniform product. External fat is trimmed to within 1⁄8 inch. Smokeless and tender, this product is sweet pickle-cured and rolled in a traditional golden cornmeal coating, maintaining the processing tradition of real Canadian peameal bacon."

Canadian Bacon (http://www.realcanadianbacon.com/pork-tenderloin/about.htm)

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This is not canadian bacon. This is bullshit passed off as canadians as canadian bacon.

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Don't you mean 'by' Canadians?

BTW, Hurricane Rita > you.

Dominic
09-27-2005, 06:51 PM
all other pork products are pwnd by this:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b122/DomDab/pork.jpg

stabn
09-27-2005, 07:39 PM
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"Peameal bacon is made from boneless pork loins, short cut from the leaner portions of the loin, to ensure a more uniform product. External fat is trimmed to within 1⁄8 inch. Smokeless and tender, this product is sweet pickle-cured and rolled in a traditional golden cornmeal coating, maintaining the processing tradition of real Canadian peameal bacon."

Canadian Bacon (http://www.realcanadianbacon.com/pork-tenderloin/about.htm)

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This is not canadian bacon. This is bullshit passed off as canadians as canadian bacon.

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Don't you mean 'by' Canadians?

BTW, Hurricane Rita > you.

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O Wows i made a typo.

09-27-2005, 07:44 PM
Okay, I came here to learn about poker and I'm talking about bacon.

I'm Canadian. I have no idea why Canadian bacon is called Canadian Bacon - in fact, I'm not even sure we did that.

Bacon and Canadian bacon is the same thing in Canada as it is here (I currently live in CA). Canadian bacon is more less ham. We also have back bacon, which is a little thicker, a little fattier, and often includes the rind.

ddubois
09-27-2005, 07:49 PM
This one time when I was about 11, my dad and I ordered some Egg McMuffins before heading into his store on a weekend. When I got to the office, I noticed the box said "Canadian Bacon", and I thought to myself: "Huh? Egg McMuffins don't have bacon, they contain ham." Being a bright and inquisitive child, I opened up the sandwhich to confirm that, indeed, between the english muffins there was what I considered to be ham. And a small, crispy, fried cockroach.

My dad went back and had the manager give him two sandwiches to replace the tainted one. Were it not for those words "canadian bacon", I would have eaten a cockroach, probably placed there intentionally by some mischievous teenager. From now on, whenever someone says canadian bacon, I think of this story. Thus, for me, the working definition of canadian bacon is: "It's like ham, but check for cockroaches."

Barrett's Last Privateer
09-27-2005, 07:57 PM
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It maybe related but bacon in Australia is what Americans call ham

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So, if I, as an Australian, have what I'd call bacon and you'd call ham, what do you call what I'd call ham?

This photo implies Americans only refer to part of the rasher as bacon (perhaps meaning the rest is referred to as ham?):

http://www.uq.net.au/~zzdonsi/gallery/bacon.jpg



FWIW, this is what I'd call ham:


http://www.ais.msstate.edu/AEE/SAL/honey.jpg

Cosimo
09-27-2005, 08:18 PM
There are four wholesale cuts of pork (excluding the jowl). These are the shoulder (front legs), belly (this cut is the "pork bellies" mentioned in Trading Places), loin (back), and leg.

Most "hams", like "christmas hams" and some of the pics above, are legs.

What Americans call bacon is a belly cut. What Americans call Canadian Bacon is a loin cut. Beef tenderloins (filet mignon) are long, cylindrical muscles that come from the loin cut from beef; pigs have a similar long muscle group. You know how pork chops have like this little round bit of meat surrounded by fat and connective tissue? That's the tenderloin. Canadian bacon is smoked pork tenderloin.

EDIT: bacon, btw, is the belly cut (minus the shortribs) that has been cured and smoked.

tonypaladino
09-27-2005, 08:30 PM
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Okay, I came here to learn about poker

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What's that? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

stabn
09-27-2005, 08:44 PM
This is what we call bacon:

http://www.thingsihate.org/images/bacon-oscarmayer-big.jpg

ethan
09-27-2005, 09:03 PM
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There are four wholesale cuts of pork (excluding the jowl). These are the shoulder (front legs), belly (this cut is the "pork bellies" mentioned in Trading Places), loin (back), and leg.


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Limiting yourself to these four means you're missing out on a lot of good food.

Ulysses
09-27-2005, 11:11 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, bacon!

http://www.peterluger.com/bacon.jpg

09-27-2005, 11:26 PM
Actually now that I think about it, I've seen bacon here that looks like that 'Australian bacon' in your first pic, and I've also seen bacon that looks like your second pick (in circular slices). What I'm trying to say is now I am confused and have no idea what means what.

Evan
09-27-2005, 11:55 PM
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Evan, I know you like McDonalds breakfast.

Canadian Bacon is whats on the classic Egg McMuffin.


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This would probably help me if I'd ever ordered anything but a sausage McGriddle.

edtost
09-28-2005, 01:17 AM
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, bacon!

http://www.peterluger.com/bacon.jpg

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drool........