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09-27-2005, 01:16 AM

Sorry I could not get the hand convertor to work but I really need help with this hand. It was the first hand of a $15+1 turbo sng on stars. So no reads and no notes on any of the players. Blinds at 10-20 increasing every 5 minutes.

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PokerStars Game #2669569922: Tournament #13068756, Hold'em No Limit - Level I
(10/20) - 2005/09/26 - 23:04:16 (ET)
Table '13068756 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: rabid (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: dylant25 (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: PWetz00 (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: va1guy04 (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: laser16 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: nypokerface (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: kacitherake (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: Kc71486 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: tasar (1500 in chips)
dylant25: posts small blind 10
PWetz00: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to laser16 [As Jc]
va1guy04: calls 20
laser16: calls 20
nypokerface: folds
kacitherake: calls 20
Kc71486: folds
tasar: folds
rabid: folds
dylant25: calls 10
PWetz00: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah 5s 8s]
dylant25: checks
PWetz00: bets 100
va1guy04: calls 100
laser16: raises 220 to 320
kacitherake: calls 320
dylant25: folds
PWetz00: folds
va1guy04: folds
*** TURN *** [Ah 5s 8s] [9s]
laser16: bets 300
kacitherake: raises 300 to 600

His min raise seems to give me odds to chase my flush but if I call it and miss am i susposed to check/fold the river? should i just fold and assume he has a made flush? I dont know what the play is please help.

09-27-2005, 01:32 AM

I would defiently call here. If you hit the flush you're going to win a big pot, if not, you still have top pair with a decent kicker. If you miss the flush it's a very though call. There is no reason to risk a huge amount of your stack of the first hand, but if he only makes a min. raise after the flop I would most likely call. You might lose the hand, but then again he might be holding Ax and be scared of the flush also.

09-27-2005, 01:48 AM

I guess my problem is that if i call the raise on the turn i have only about 1/3 of original chip stack so then if i miss my flush draw I have already put 2/3 of my stack into this pot. At this point do I have to make a decision for all my chips on the turn or do i call the turn and fold if i miss my flush?

splashpot

09-27-2005, 02:02 AM

I fold AJo preflop UTG+1 level 1.

09-27-2005, 02:10 AM

Well if UTG doesnt call I fold here. Also if I think im playing strong players I fold here. However generally at this level I feel like one of stronger players so I am less afraid of playing speculative hands. Maybe that is a leak and I should tighten up more for the early levels. However what would you do on the turn in this spot?

09-27-2005, 02:15 AM

09-27-2005, 02:16 AM

Call and check/fold river /images/graemlins/confused.gif.

09-27-2005, 02:19 AM

should i call it a marginal hand?

splashpot

09-27-2005, 02:20 AM

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Well if UTG doesnt call I fold here. Also if I think im playing strong players I fold here. However generally at this level I feel like one of stronger players so I am less afraid of playing speculative hands. Maybe that is a leak and I should tighten up more for the early levels. However what would you do on the turn in this spot?

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You still have a lot of people to act behind you. It's just way too likely that someone behind you will raise. If you had position, MAYBE I would call. UTG+1 is a easy fold.

As for the rest of the hand. On the flop, a bet of 100 and a call could mean a wide number of things. One of them probably has an ace. Whether the ace is better than yours is hard to say. Just another reason not to play AJo this early. It avoids hard decisions. I think I would just call the flop and see what they do on the turn. If they show weakness on the turn, I'd make a large bet to buy the pot. If they bet again, I'd just call down since you now have the nut flush draw.