making money

[dink]

g'day all,

just a quick question.
are there many people constantly making money playing poker online? I have just started and have done ok playing at pacific poker and am playing a very tight game along the lines of Lee Jones.

I have read alot of people on this message board complaining about the garbage hands people play at Pacific Poker and the hands they win, I would think this is a good thing for the skilled player. Is it?

So is it possible to make a good monthly income, how much per hour can I expect. At the moment I am playing low stakes 50c/$1 or $1/$2 and it seems people play anything at these stakes. should I be playing higher stakes?

So should I just withdraw my sign in bonus when I have played enough hands or should I keep on playing with the possibility of making money playing online?

looking forward to hearing from you all.

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[dux]

You an aussie? We need more on these forums.

Yes, playing junk is good for the disciplined player, and as long as you have a sufficient bankroll (although perhaps not as big as Lee Jones talks about) you should win at the game.

But as far as a monthy income, people in this forum who play 2/4 to 5/10 and keep good records and have programs to keep stats, talk about recording 1 or 2 big bets an hour win rates - perhaps more I'm not sure. Which means a couple of dollars an hour if they played 50/1. There is higher % rake at these levels, but with generally speaking worse players I think you can make money there. All I'm saying is that you might be struggling to make any sort of decent money.

Should you go up in limits? I haven't played at Pacific, but what I've found is the lowest limits offered have some really bad players playing in them. But as you go up, you encounter people who like you have gone up in limits, and those who take it much more seriously. It is a noticibly different game by the time you reach 2/4+ at most sites. But like I said I haven't played at pacific.

Good luck.

[dink]

yes,
I am an Aussie,
don't get to play much holdem in our Casinos, only the really big ones in the big smoke, our little casino has a few blackjack and roulette tables and way too many machines.

I am not really looking to make a career out of online poker, but a bit of extra money every month would be handy.

What are the decent online poker rooms?

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[dux]

The best are subjective, there are websites you can search for that rate online poker rooms.

The three biggest are www.paradisepoker.com (http://www.paradisepoker.com), www.partypoker.com (http://www.partypoker.com), and www.pokerstars.com (http://www.pokerstars.com)

[RollaJ]

Yes you can make some nice extra money playing online..... many here do (Im sure many do not). Do not however expect to make a "good monthly income" playing 50/$1& 1/2, altho some extra money can surely be made /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

Welcome aboard!

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Now, now, don't criticize those slot machines. Without them, the casino couldn't afford a poker room.

[Bubmack]

I think UltimateBet is bigger than Pokerstars and their tightass games. On Saturday they had about 2000 players.

Bubs

[lefty rosen]

At Pacific poker the play is horrid from .50/1 through 5/10 I have played there under another alias and have cracked out 1,100+ playing 7 weeks at 15 hours a week over about 2 and half months. These guys have no idea how to play they just get pot odds to chase because there are a multitude of these guys.

[lorinda]

My old story "The Lord of the Whinge" was based a) on a famous book and b) on a week's play at Pacific.

Lori

[richie]

I think you should continue to play there if you're winning. I've been playing there maybe 6 weeks max, around 5/hrs week, low limits, normally 1-2 and I'm up around $500. The only drawback to the site IMHO is the slow play. But, at $15/hr, I can't complain /forums/images/icons/grin.gif I keep expecting to have a bad streak there, but as of yet I haven't. Easiest site on the internet IMO.

[Your Mom]

Haven't played at Pacific in a while, but they have the dumbest damn players in the world on that site. I played up to 4/8 regularly there for a month. Normally, I play 2/4. Made a nice killing, but their software is full of bugs, their support is stupid, and the gameplay is slower than a cripple running a marathon. If you want to make money it is a good site, but I think in the longrun it will make you play worse because you rarely have to think to beat the game. Plus, it is boring as hell after a while. GL with it though.

[GrannyMae]

the gameplay is slower than a cripple running a marathon

i crossed the race path in manhattan this year, while watching a family member run the NY marathon. i wanted a hotdog and a bag of sugarcoated hot-cashews (both fat free of course)

anyhooo, i almost got mowed over by the 3 frontrunners in the wheelchair division. they were going about 30mph, and if my desire for the hotdog had been a little less, and i left the curb 2 seconds later, i would been roadkill.
(i SWEAR one of them was aiming for me though, and i heard something about "5 points for the hitting the old bag" as they whizzed by)
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i would do it again tho. anyone ever have one of them dirty water dogs on in front of the AOL building?? freaking yummy.

what the hell was this thread about anyway?!?

[lefty rosen]

I wish I could make a dumpers list and sell it on the net, I have seen players at other sites that are just as bad but they know their limits,ie .50/1 or 1/2. The guys at Pacific play like those players but are sending it hard at 5/10, well I'm glad that I am not there accountants........

[dink]

Just playing at PP now, I started my session dreadfully, was done about $50 on a variety of $1/$2 tables. Had to move becuase the tables kept dissolving. anyway I was thinking here we go, my first losing session since I started playing seriously two weeks ago. I have played most days and have either won, broke even or lost $2-$3 (ahead most of the time I would say) I had the usual bad run, being beaten on the river by crap cards etc etc. I was thinking to myself, yes this winning streak was too good to be true.


But then the cards turned, I started winning hands that i was expecting to win. I am still behind but not by much and I will live to fight on another day, when the poker gods are smiling on me.

If this keeps up I shall do quite alright at pacific poker.

For those who said it was boring, my main aim is to win money and I seem to be doing that at the moment. I really only joined there for the bonus.

Happy poking

the aussie
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Ladbrokes is another good place to play with a lot of players who play just in order to put their chips into the middle of the table. At the $100-$200 tables this may not be the case however...

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[homer001]

Realize that most of poker is taking the most advantage of oppourtunities givin to you. Lower limit, you just play solid and take the low hanging fruit. Someone gets out of line, usually with a call, you punish them. When you get to higher limits on-line 5-10, 10-20, 1-2NL, 2-4NL, you have to start creating, much like a point guard in basketball. Very few at those limits will buy the standard plays. They know most of them and know that you know most of them.

I wanted to get back to the moving up post. 2-4 and 3-6 are decent limits on-line. To really test your game and see how good you can be, you have to play at least these limits. 50c-$1.00 are for learning the game, not for long term competiotion. I like to play at the highest limit in which I feel comfortable, read winner.

I think I rambled, forgot the original subject, oh well. Maybe I'll get off my lazy ass and post more often.

[lorinda]

I think I rambled, forgot the original subject, oh well. Maybe I'll get off my lazy ass and post more often.

Sounds like you have all the qualities of an IG poster to me.

Lori

[joeypoker789]

I don't know about the players but I have been watching Pacific Poker for quite a while now and they are building their player count traffic and daily pot totals very nicely. Today I see they are at 120+ average money players per hour and have pot totals > $1,000,000 over the past 24 hours. Not bad for a relatively recently launched room IMO.

[richie]

Your Mom, I agree 100%. But, I want to make money, not lose it, and any game of poker is boring after awhile. Also, it is difficult to play another site after playing here. Your game will deteriorate if you don't adjust from "Pacific" mode. /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif

[richie]

Joey, I agree, they have great traffic considering their relative newness. Look at ACR in comparison, where you are lucky if you can find more than a couple of tables at all. Beernutz, if you're reading this, explain to me why ACR has little to no traffic.

[Inthacup]

Your game will deteriorate if you don't adjust from "Pacific" mode.

I adjusted to the "pacific" mode and won almost $900 in about 35 hrs of 3 6. This was last week, and since then, I've virtually quit online poker. There is serious money to be made at that site if you can handle B&M speed games and the swings associated with a table seeing 70% of the flops.

[joeypoker789]

richie, ACR traffic is time of day dependent as this chart shows http://www.pokerpulse.com/pr/acr.htm Go to ACR between 7PM and 1AM Eastern and you will find it is a busy site for regular games. They also have tournment action peaks earlier in the day.

[Legenda]

Dink,

A lot of the winning depends on your skill level and the games you are prepared to play. Some people are better suited to the lower games, and tight cautious play is perfect against looser opposition. However, as you move up the stakes play gets more aggressive, and it's more about the players and less about the cards..

The NL games on Paradise are a good source of cash (about 15BB an hour I work out at). Its a matter of finding your depth basically....

Legenda

[picabo]

I have been playing at Pacific since January and have done well ($15,000 and counting). I have played all levels up to and including 15/30 (mostly 5/10 though)and even at that level the play is loose and fast most of the time. You will be beaten by any number of chasers but you will of course be paid off on your nut hands. Though there are a few sharks at the higher leves, it doesnt seem like the level of competition goes up dramatically with the limits. I would suggest at least moving up to 2/4 or 3/6 as soon as your bankroll can handle it so you can make a decent wage. Also, bluffing is very overrated there as you cant get anyone to fold anyway so play straightforward poker and try to isolate the inevitable psycho that raises preflop every hand!! /forums/images/icons/grin.gif I have seen this happen regularly and saw one player drop 3,000 in an hour. Only drawback is that you dont often see them any more! /forums/images/icons/crazy.gif

[richie]

Congrats, Picabo, that's quite impressive /forums/images/icons/cool.gif I mainly play 1/2, I guess I should move up in limits and see how things go. I usually withdraw money when I can, but this site looks as though they're here to stay /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

[picabo]

Thanks Richie, yes I believe even with all of their shortcomings that they will be around, after all they are one of the oldest and largest internet casinos. I would encourage anyone to try moving up in limit as long as you have sufficient br to do so as the swings can be pretty severe due to the type of play there. Good Luck!