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kagame
09-26-2005, 01:05 AM
whats the best turn line here?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

CO ($238.35)
Hero ($334.13)
SB ($362)
BB ($211.40)
UTG ($434.11)
MP ($367.67)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. CO posts a blind of $3. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $6.

Flop: ($26) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $125</font>, UTG calls $85.

Turn: ($276) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero calls $199.13 (All-In), UTG calls $199.13.

River: ($674.26) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $674.26
Allinlife
09-26-2005, 01:30 AM
you took it
yvesaint
09-26-2005, 01:33 AM
I probably raise more pre-flop, and 3-bet the flop to 140. Turn plays itself.
kagame
09-26-2005, 03:19 AM
you dont think theres any room for a turn check behind?

what are we putting villain on?
Benholio
09-26-2005, 03:32 AM
If you check behind on the turn, are you folding a blank river when he bets?
Lucky
09-26-2005, 03:58 AM
No other choice on turn, bad beat post?
Big_Jim
09-26-2005, 10:41 PM
Is this a standard open for you PF? (Not the cards, the amount)

PF: Raise more or limp.
Flop: Looks good.

What is your take of his range to call this flop bet? I would say any two pair, any set, and maybe an overpair.

What do you think he puts you on?

On the turn, 2 of the 3 two pairs and all sets have filled up, and are not going anywhere.

J9 just got counterfeited.

Overpairs have just improved, and may think that you just got counterfeited.

Of these hands, you're either drawing completely dead, or they're drawing at 4 outs.

I think that a check behind is decent, calling any river bet. This might get him to overplay a weakish hand.

If he checks to you, bet all-in.


Of course, this holds true much moreso if villian will drop his two pair hands and call only with a boat.

If villian won't get away from these hands, your line looks good.
Big_Jim
09-26-2005, 11:12 PM
By the way, I think that the best part about the checking behind line is that often times, villian will fire less than $200, and you can get a cheaper showdown.
kagame
09-28-2005, 04:52 AM
glad someone else thinks i misplayed this

i was sure i could have maximized wins and minimzed loses in this spot with a check behind

there arent any draws besides a double pairing board or QT overstraight, and he shouldnt have an overpair here with the preflop action

yes i usually raise more preflop, didnt notice a limper, who happened to have had JJ and won a nice pot off me
Hattifnatt
09-28-2005, 05:32 AM
I make the 3-bet $140 on the flop. Turn is a clear all-in.