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deepsquat
09-26-2005, 12:44 AM
$2/$4, No reads,

You are in the BB with 44, button limps (wtf?), SB raises do u call or fold?

ty

09-26-2005, 12:48 AM
Calling or raising depending on my image at table and what I know about the other 2.

TStoneMBD
09-26-2005, 12:52 AM
this is a call no question. you have 5:1 odds which is the necessary amount not to mention that the SB could really have anything here.

deepsquat
09-26-2005, 02:17 AM
thanks guys. Not being results oriented but i folded quads vs SB's KK boat. Button also paid off all the way.

Im calling next time /images/graemlins/cool.gif

cheers

ArturiusX
09-26-2005, 02:33 AM
Call that shiznit.

ClaytonN
09-26-2005, 02:34 AM
Are we calling for set value alone here? What kind of flops that dont include a 4 warrant getting aggro? Or calling?

ArturiusX
09-26-2005, 02:38 AM
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Are we calling for set value alone here? What kind of flops that dont include a 4 warrant getting aggro? Or calling?

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Sets give us great implied odds, especially vs something like AQ that hits top pair.

A good flop:

862. SB will make a continuation bet, we raise, co folds, button calls. Turn is a J. SB checks, and we're pretty much assured of this pot.

Even a flop of K75 is pretty good for us. SB bets, we just call down. AJ and the like will probably bluff all the way to the river.

@bsolute_luck
09-26-2005, 10:33 AM
my question is: do we 3-bet. wouldn't SB raise here to isolate the button open-limper? wouldn't it be better to try and buy some outs and fold him now or does that not work often enough to be profitable?