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Maulik
09-24-2005, 03:42 PM
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">???</font>

Mucking sucks, 3 betting doesn't feel correct either. Confused ?
09-24-2005, 03:43 PM
What are the stats/reads on these guys? Why didn't you raise preflop?
Redd
09-24-2005, 03:45 PM
Why no pfr?

What's wrong with 3-betting? These guys haven't done anything yet that indicates their hands aren't worse Ts.
sy_or_bust
09-24-2005, 03:47 PM
Easy preflop raise. I'd rather 3-bet than fold, although in a small pot it's not so clear. It is unlikely you are behind, unless MP1 has a set. This board has a FD but little else.
Maulik
09-24-2005, 03:53 PM
I'd like to know if you are raising w/ ATo in earlyMP?

I'm not raising because I like c-bets but don't want to do one so OOP.
09-24-2005, 03:56 PM
Likely you have a better hand than the limper. When you raise you are likely to get it heads up with the best hand, plus dead money from the blinds. I would raise ATo here.

I would also raise ATo first in from MP2.
sy_or_bust
09-24-2005, 03:59 PM
ATs, and I'm raising it UTG. I'd raise ATo first-in from MP2 in most games, and against a weak limper a lot w/ favorable conditions.

You're missing a ton of value by calling/folding in these situations, IMO.
Maulik
09-24-2005, 04:15 PM
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You're missing a ton of value by calling/folding in these situations, IMO.

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I 3-bet just wasn't sure if its good to do in a small pot. Was not aware UTG ATs is a raising hand, good to know.Can you explain to me why its +EV?
peterchi
09-24-2005, 04:34 PM
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Was not aware UTG ATs is a raising hand, good to know.Can you explain to me why its +EV?

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Bad players will call with worse hands.

And you might even get tight players to fold something like AJo.

It depends on the game texture to some extent though. If I think I'm likely to get 3-bet and/or outplayed, I might just limp. Not at 2/4 though.

From MP2 with one limper, it's definitely an easy raise, suited or not. Limpers are generally just asking you to take their money.