Value raising TPTK vs dual LAGs

[DrewOnTilt]

OK, value betting is now almost second nature to me, but I am still trying to get a handle on value raising. Heads up against CO I would probably 3-bet this turn, but the presence of the second lag made me a bit gun-shy. Who's firing again at this turn?

The 2 donks in this hand are uber-LAGs.

MP2 is 63/17/1.12 and has made a number of questionable postflop raises, including capping a Q-rag-rag flop with pocket TT against a preflop TAG capper with position on him (yours truly).

CO is 68/24/1.15 and has made similar thin postflop raises.

My table image is irrelevant since it is a table full of nitwits.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: (19 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 22 BB

[thesharpie]

That 3rd guy makes me more likely to raise than if it was heads up since we don't need to have as much equity to raise for value. Personally I 3 bet if he's as bad as you say, and has taken that agression to the turn before.

[DrewOnTilt]

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That 3rd guy makes me more likely to raise than if it was heads up since we don't need to have as much equity to raise for value.

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Hmm, interesting...I've never thought of a premium made top pair hand against 2 players as a "value" raise...I've reserved such thinking for flush draws and the like. Methinks you have shown me a way to make a small improvement in my flop play /images/graemlins/ooo.gif

[ArturiusX]

I like it all.