$22 Bubble Play

[cleinen]

I wanna get more involved and post more hands. What is the standard play here?

***** Hand History for Game 2752420852 *****
150/300 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 15947707) - Wed Sep 21 20:29:33 EDT 2005
Table Table 14948 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: mumfroggers (2671)
Seat 2: AdamUSP40 (3664)
Seat 3: Hero (823)
Seat 4: HugeBuffoon (842)
Hero posts small blind (75)
HugeBuffoon posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to cleinen1996 [ Ah, Tc ]
mumfroggers raises (500) to 500
AdamUSP40 folds.
Hero ???

I fold, but it's rather close. But, I would call here with AJo+, 66+.

[cleinen]

I pushed here but not sure if it was correct. After I post the SB I have 5 BB left and I won't have much FE in the next 2 hands with the big stacks involved. I think this is the best hand to get my chips in the middle with because he could be raising such a wide range or with nothing. Is this a correct line of thinking?

[SlackerMcFly]

This is most likely a steal attempt aimed at the BB with decent cards. ATo is a great pushing hand, but I have a hard time calling with it here against the huge stack.

My instincts are to fold this, hope that Buffoon calls with air and gets beat by the 77 or so that BB has and sneak ITM.

If not, then look to push your Dell coupon and Mini-mart receipt if folded to you the next couple of hands.

SlackerMcTighty

[caretaker1]

You have to make a stand sometime, but A10 is probably a little too weak. The bully is probably on a wide range, but you still have some fold equity left after your fold; save it for later.

[Shillx]

This looks like a pretty clear fold to me. You have to win about 60% of the time against his range (which is like any jack or better) to make a stand or else you just let the other short stack off the hook. You don't need to start making -EV calls yet imo.

Brad

[SCfuji]

if you and your friend are being chased by a dragon, then you only need to outrun your friend.

[Fatdogs12]

You will still have some fold equity at the 20's esp if you push into mum frog dude. In my experiance a raise like that UTG by a healthy stack into a big stack is not usually a steal. I would more suspect some high cards or mid pair like 10-10 or something).

AJ jack I probably still auto push but A-10 is close. Considering his UTG raise I fold this. Nothing super standard about this play though simply because it is so close, I wouldn't call pushing over him a terrible thing but I don't think it would be good either.

[SammyKid11]

On first glance this looked close to me...looking at it harder, I don't think it's all that close. 2nd big stack pushes into big stack with two micro-stacks...he's risking his entire tourney when he could easily fold into the money. I think this puts his pushing range on something tighter than maniacal...and he'd have to be pushing Qx+ for this to be a marginally +EV call. Great pushing hand...not a great calling hand in this spot.

[cleinen]

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2nd big stack pushes into big stack

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Your right that makes sense. That would greatly tighen the range and i now agree this was a fold. Would you feel the same if the button made the raise and UTG had folded?

[schwza]

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if you and your friend are being chased by a dragon, then you only need to outrun your friend.

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hahahahahahahahaha

[schwza]

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2nd big stack pushes into big stack

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if he had actually pushed, AT is a turbo-fold. but since he raised ~20% of his stack, he can fold to a BB push.

i still think that AT is a fold, though, and i'd toss AJ too. the blinds are small enough that you're not getting a lot of overlay, and the other shorty is going to be soooo happy to see you get a-i. AQ i'd push.

[Sabrazack]

These are very wise words indeed. I ask your permission to use them in future bubblefolding hands. /images/graemlins/cool.gif