$33: TT Hand, Another One of Those Crazy PF Action Posts

[downtown]

$33, Level 1, t15 BB
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: HalfEmpty1 (785)
Seat 2: drogfive (800)
Seat 3: silv3rtiger (290)
Seat 4: Hero (785)
Seat 5: dmilsey (785)
Seat 6: fishnut1 (830)
Seat 7: DmanFOrlando (1320)
Seat 8: patentmaster (855)
Seat 9: BI504218 (775)
Seat 10: drob03 (775)
HalfEmpty1 posts small blind (10)
drogfive posts big blind (15)

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Hero [ T /images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T /images/graemlins/heart.gif ]
silv3rtiger calls (15)
Hero calls (15)
dmilsey calls (15)
fishnut1 calls (15)
DmanFOrlando raises (50) to 50
patentmaster calls (50)
BI504218 folds.
drob03 folds.
HalfEmpty1 calls (40)
drogfive folds.
silv3rtiger raises (275) to 290
silv3rtiger is all-In.
Hero...

Read on silv3rtiger is non-existent, so I quickly look in the HH and see he lost his chips by calling/calling/folding on 3 of the first 4 hands. DmanFOrlando seems LAG so far according to his raising 3 of 4 hands PF, but he has shown down AKo once for TPTK.

I'm not interested in changing my limping line, just in what you would do now. Push or fold?

[Tuben]

I would fold you have no ide where you stand when the raiser behind you has not acted.

Raise it preflop insted.

I dont get you play 33 and hasnt learn to raise preflop ???
Damn i play 5+50 and know better.

Based on the info you have, coming over the top here would not be ridiculous. However, I would not do so this early. Too likely that you are in a coin toss situation. I would probably let the hand go and pick a better spot down the road. The only two moves, however, are to push or fold, IMO.

[45suited]

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Raise it preflop insted.

I dont get you play 33 and hasnt learn to raise preflop ???
Damn i play 5+50 and know better.

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I'm trying to figure out if this is a serious post or not.

He's UTG+1 on level 1 at a full table and you're criticizing him for not raising with TT?

Whatever.

BTW, I'd fold.

[Tuben]

Yes ofcourse i am.

Why limp fold the trash then.
Play TT like 22??
But somtimes limp ofcourse.

[suited_ace]

Easy fold.

I play 5.5 and 11, but I think the decision is close without a read. Given the read you gave, I push.

It is the smallest pp I would do so with. I would make a standard raise about 80 percent, limp about 20 percent.

[45suited]

Raise with TT here if you'd like to win a small pot with high risk.

Limp if you'd like to win a big pot with low risk.

The blinds are low, he's 2nd to act at a full table. Limping is just fine here.

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I play 5.5 and 11, but I think the decision is close without a read. Given the read you gave, I push.

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I'm sorry, I misread action. Didn't see limp/reraise. Fold.

[Tuben]

Ok.

Limp

[downtown]

I love that I wrote, "I'm not interested in changing my limping line, just in what you would do now," and "raise preflop" is the first reply.

Results in white for interested parties, i thought it was 50/50 as far as the decision, but posted it to make sure I wasn't missing something big, and since I am risk loving...:
<font color="white"> I pushed, patentmaster calls (wtf?), silv3rtiger shows [ A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif ], patentmaster shows [ J /images/graemlins/heart.gif A /images/graemlins/heart.gif ], dealer puts the cards out, I fire up a new one...</font>

[nyc999]

With the original pf raiser and caller yet to act, this is an easy fold. TT 3 or 4-way doesn't sound very appetizing to me.

[downtown]

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With the original pf raiser and caller yet to act, this is an easy fold. TT 3 or 4-way doesn't sound very appetizing to me.

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I agree that TT is not strong enough here, I like a fold too. I usually err on the side of agression, and I don't think this was the spot to do that in. I think this ends up being close with a nod to the fold. Thanks for the responses.

[schwza]

i probably would've pushed too. this looks like a "oh screw it" push from utg, so you're really just talking about the raiser. i'd dump 99 quickly though.

[Tuben]

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I love that I wrote, "I'm not interested in changing my limping line, just in what you would do now," and "raise preflop" is the first reply.

Results in white for interested parties, i thought it was 50/50 as far as the decision, but posted it to make sure I wasn't missing something big, and since I am risk loving...:
<font color="white"> I pushed, patentmaster calls (wtf?), silv3rtiger shows [ A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif ], patentmaster shows [ J /images/graemlins/heart.gif A /images/graemlins/heart.gif ], dealer puts the cards out, I fire up a new one...</font>

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/images/graemlins/smile.gif I see that but i couldnt control myself /images/graemlins/smile.gif