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ilya
09-23-2005, 12:37 AM
***** Hand History for Game 2759263119 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:15983598 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Friday, September 23, 00:17:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 14105 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: bkm8003 ( $625 )
Seat 3: bigcdawgg ( $860 )
Seat 6: Schwartzie ( $2695 )
Seat 8: StneColdCall ( $1990 )
Seat 9: MyNameIsNeo ( $1830 )
Trny:15983598 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to StneColdCall [ 9c 9d ]
Schwartzie folds.
StneColdCall raises [450].
MyNameIsNeo calls [450].
bkm8003 folds.
bigcdawgg folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, Tc, 6d ]

The previous orbit I opened on the button for 300 with A8s, Villain folded, and I got it all-in with a short stack in the big blind. Other than that I've been folding in LP.

Villain thought for a looooong time before calling preflop.

On the flop I checked and Villain thought for a while again before betting 400.

I ran my clock down and folded.
curtains
09-23-2005, 12:47 AM
I would move allin on the flop.
gumpzilla
09-23-2005, 12:50 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'd push here. It's a pretty good sized pot to take down and I don't really want to give free cards as no broadway card makes me particularly happy. You seem to be afraid of a bigger pair, but you even have 6 outs against that, and I think he can be making that bet with a lot more than a bigger pair, preflop stall or no. If I checked, I'm going to c/r all-in after that bet.
Olback
09-23-2005, 12:59 AM
I either push the flop or check raise all in here. If villian has a bigger pair he calls and you go broke. But he probabrly has overcards, or a smaller pair otherwise wouldn't he have pushed preflop.
bones
09-23-2005, 01:01 AM
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I ran my clock down and folded.

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ilya
09-23-2005, 01:04 AM
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I ran my clock down and folded.

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Hey man, it takes time to see into a man's soul. Almost as much time as it takes to wimp out.
bones
09-23-2005, 01:06 AM
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Hey man, it takes time to see into a man's soul

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That's what you get for not playing with the Oakley wraparounds on.
lastchance
09-23-2005, 01:08 AM
I don't think he's got it. If it was a queen, king, or ace, I'd be inclined to fold, but not on this board. Curtainz line might work, but I also like the check-call/raise line here. You need to get value out of overs.
gumpzilla
09-23-2005, 01:11 AM
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I don't think he's got it. If it was a queen, king, or ace, I'd be inclined to fold, but not on this board. Curtainz line might work, but I also like the check-call/raise line here. You need to get value out of overs.

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Just winning the money in the pot after the preflop action makes you the chipleader. This is a pretty appreciable amount in there as is. I wouldn't be too worried about extracting that much more value, though c/r'ing the flop is okay with me. I'd rather not check and have KQ check behind, though. I also think that pushing will be called slightly more often than one might suspect, given these stack sizes.
curtains
09-23-2005, 01:31 AM
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I don't think he's got it. If it was a queen, king, or ace, I'd be inclined to fold, but not on this board. Curtainz line might work, but I also like the check-call/raise line here. You need to get value out of overs.

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I would never consider trying to get value in this huge pot with 5 players left, two of them whom are short. I want to end this pot immediately and have the chips in the middle join my stack.