AA check-raised on dangerous flop

[Rooger]

Sat down around 10 hands ago. Villain is bigstack of the table - he probably sees me as a bit LAG, as I've raised 3 or 4 of the 10 hands PF, and contination betted the hands.

Is this a fold, given the board & SB's check-raise? Call and see a turn? What is your action if a heart hits? Non-heart? T?

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SB ($483.64)
BB ($81.55)
UTG ($162.95)
MP ($58.56)
Hero ($102.80)
Button ($98.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($9) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $25</font>, Hero?

[Godfather80]

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Sat down around 10 hands ago. Villain is bigstack of the table - he probably sees me as a bit LAG, as I've raised 3 or 4 of the 10 hands PF, and contination betted the hands.

Is this a fold, given the board &amp; SB's check-raise? Call and see a turn? What is your action if a heart hits? Non-heart? T?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB ($483.64)
BB ($81.55)
UTG ($162.95)
MP ($58.56)
Hero ($102.80)
Button ($98.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($9) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $25</font>, Hero?

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SB's hand range is limited by the fact that you hold 2 of the aces. To me this makes it likely that he has a medium pocket pair or suited connector. If you call, you've gotta call $17 to win $42 so you are getting better than 2.5:1. SB's check-raise is a good bet because it could represent many hands.

KK is unlikely because he probably would have reraised preflop.
QQ is unlikely for the same reason as KK.
JJ is a distinct possibility.
TT is a distinct possibility.
99 is a distinct possibility.
QJs is a distinct possibility.
JhTh is a distinct possibility.
T9 is a distinct possibility.
89s is unlikely unless he is very aggro.
7h8h is a distinct possibility.

Barring a good read, I probably fold here.

[wdeadwyler]

I lost a stack w/ AA on a similar flop (albeit rainbow) yesterday. Dont make my same mistake. FOLD.

I'd probably fold...just cut your loss right there, way too many draws/or possible drawing dead to 2 aces..

[DoomSlice]

Even if you are ahead, he probably has a good chance to suck out, and it's hard to tell which ones are safe and which aren't. Fold!

[TexArcher]

Cut losses, IF you're ahead at all, he probably has enough outs to mean that your call costs too much to be +EV, and he might already have you dominated.

[Rooger]

I agree that I should've folded - I put villain on a draw, as my guess is he would've bet on the flop if he had a made hand (set, 2 pairs etc). I used all my time, and ended up calling.

Turn: ($59) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB bets $75, Hero?

Now villain overbets the pot, putting me all-in? Is there any way I can call this? Is it a bluff? The turn wasn't a scare card, so the overbet confused me very much.

[fuzzbox]

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I agree that I should've folded - I put villain on a draw, as my guess is he would've bet on the flop if he had a made hand (set, 2 pairs etc). I used all my time, and ended up calling.

Turn: ($59) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB bets $75, Hero?

Now villain overbets the pot, putting me all-in? Is there any way I can call this? Is it a bluff? The turn wasn't a scare card, so the overbet confused me very much.

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If you put him on a draw, this turn changes nothing, so you call.

[DoomSlice]

Yes, you call this since you took so long to call the flop, of course he will bet.

fold or reraise all in on a good read of your opponnent.
in fact i think your vilan as a set ! or semi-bluffing a very nice draw take care !

[Rooger]

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fold or reraise all in on a good read of your opponnent.
in fact i think your vilan as a set ! or semi-bluffing a very nice draw take care !

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Reraising all-in will only get me calls from hands who are ahead of me, so I don't think that's a good idea.

Anyways - villains overbet made me quite sure he was drawing, so I called.
He showed A/images/graemlins/diamond.gifQ/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, and I felt that his flop play was very good, while mine was quite doubtful.

im agree with you but , i tell you that if you dont like this flop maybe your vilain doesnt like it too (it maybe why is betting so much) ?

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Reraising all-in will only get me calls from hands who are ahead of me, so I don't think that's a good idea.


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Doesn't calling already put you all-in?

[Godfather80]

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im agree with you but , i tell you that if you dont like this flop maybe your vilain doesnt like it too (it maybe why is betting so much) ?

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Yup. Villain probably hates that flop. That's why he checkraises. Isn't that why you checkraise, because you just can't stand a flop.

it why i said previously you fold or you push.
Calling is the worst of all !