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SenecaJim
09-22-2005, 11:09 AM
Live game. 10-20. average table agression,and usually 4-7 see flop. I check in BB with
K /images/graemlins/club.gifQ /images/graemlins/diamond.gif after 5 limpers (including sb ).

Flop: T /images/graemlins/spade.gif8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif5 /images/graemlins/club.gif

It checks to mp2 who bets, mp3 raises,
button cold calls, sb folds

with ep2 and orginal bettor left to act after me. I have 2 overcards and a backdoor straight draw.

There are 11 sb's in the pot and it's 2 sb's to me. I know pot odds don't warrant a call at 5.5-1 , so I guess this is an implied odds question. Should I take one off?

Read no reraises almost 100% and bout 70% sure ( i guess /images/graemlins/smirk.gif) raiser is protecting top pair. so, again, should a card be taken here?

mantasm
09-22-2005, 11:13 AM
Fold. It's a reverse implied odds situation, and you don't even have pot odds.

mack848
09-22-2005, 11:15 AM
I fold.

With two spades on board, you can't like K /images/graemlins/spade.gif or Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif. Also, KT and QT are common limping hands that you would be in trouble to.

Dopey
09-22-2005, 11:17 AM
I'd say no.

With the 2 spades on the board your b/d straight draw and 2 of your overcard outs are dirty. Your also looking at a decent chance to be reverse dominated.

I just don't see anyway calling 2 bets on this flop can be correct.

Someone please correct me if Im wrong.

Dopey /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

SenecaJim
09-22-2005, 11:38 AM
thanks for answers. I folded but then started thinking maybe I wussed out.

spoohunter
09-22-2005, 12:19 PM
5.5:1 is not even enough if you have 6 clean outs.