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DoomSlice
09-22-2005, 07:50 AM
Villain in this hand is 63/3/.5 BEFORE we started to go to heads up. Mega-fish at the table just left and everyone dissapeared in one orbit except Villain and I. Villain loves to make "great" calls, once calling 3 pot sized bets on a JJ8QK board with T8 (beating the bettor's pocket 3s). This is the first time I've seen him take over the betting like this.

Hero is SB ($45) with J /images/graemlins/heart.gif6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif
Villain is BB ($40)

Pot Limit 25


Preflop:
Hero raises to .75, Villain calls .25

Flop ($1.5): J /images/graemlins/spade.gifK /images/graemlins/spade.gif4 /images/graemlins/heart.gif
Villain checks, Hero bets $1, Villain calls

Turn ($3.5): 6 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
Villain checks, Hero bets $3.5, Villain calls

River ($10.5): 9 /images/graemlins/club.gif
Villain bets $10.5, Hero????

Obviously QT comes to mind as a possibility, but he's been known to call down with ANY piece of the board, and I've been checkraised on the turn once when he had top pair weak kicker.

gunslingner
09-22-2005, 10:28 AM
This is KJ or a set of 4s IMO.

09-22-2005, 10:43 AM
If he's a fish, I think this looks like a missed flush to be honest, I'd call, but hey who am I???

aces_full
09-22-2005, 10:46 AM
Fold, there are too many hands a calling station can have here that you are behind. It has been my experience that passive players won't show resistance to an opponent who has been betting at them unless they are holding two pair or better. The only possible hands he could have that you beat are 64 or 94. The way he played it, I see two possibilities: He flopped a set with 44 (or maybe JJ or KK if he's ultra-passive). I have had this happen before when a passive player flops a set and calls the flop and turn and then bets/raises the river. The other possibility is that the river helped his 99 (passive fish hate to fold their pretty pocket pairs, even if they are underpairs to the board) J9, or QT, or maybe K9. Since you raised PF, he might not play back at you on the flop or turn TP/no kicker, but he aint gonna fold it if you bet. He hit his kicker on the river and he knows his hand is good.

aces_full
09-22-2005, 10:49 AM
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If he's a fish, I think this looks like a missed flush to be honest, I'd call, but hey who am I???

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Maybe I have no clue what I am talking about, but passive players generally don't call on every street and then bluff a whiffed flush draw when a PF raiser has been betting every street.

DoomSlice
09-22-2005, 03:12 PM
Who knows, I folded.