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GrandmaStabone
09-22-2005, 04:31 AM
Hey guys,

I have very little b&m experience. I have been playing poker regularly for a few years now but my experience has been almost entirely multitabling small stakes limit hold'em online.

So anyways, this weekend I went into the city to play some b&m. I found this really juicy 4-8 game (actually the casino only spreads 4-8, and all of them are pretty weak). but the blinds are only 1-2, initial raise is up to 6 with a cap at 14.

So with the blinds at 1-2 in a 4-8 game, are there any strategic adjustments I should make/consider when getting into the hand for a quarter of a bet? After the flop everything else proceeds as normal, $4 flop bets and $8 turn/river bets.

What came to mind initially is that pre-flop my implied odds go up, as I am investing only a quarter of a bet to win half and full bets. Also, my odds on the flop are cut down, as the pot only contains quarter bets and I have to call half bets to draw. I do not know, however if this should alter any "normal play", and i thought I would throw it out and see if you guys had any suggestions.

Thanks,

GS

Photoc
09-22-2005, 05:03 AM
First off, I hate mini blinds. Second, you probably will get better answers in the small stakes forum as they discuss more of this type of stuff over there. Third, you can limp with a lot more of your marginal hands (suited connectors, suited gappers, ect..). Just the raise now is 3x the bb instead of 2x, which will change the odds a little bit.

09-22-2005, 11:34 AM
Limp more for implied odds. Open raise less since you are investing more to win less. And, yea, I hate this structure as well.

henrikrh
09-22-2005, 11:43 AM
Yeah, limp more speculative hands, and limp some that you might raise with since your raises won't intimidate anyone preflop. Play fewer draws, but thats jsut cause your pot odds will be affected.

jba
09-22-2005, 11:49 AM
try doing a search in this forum for mandalay bay -- they have a mini blind structure and there has been good threads in the past.

Ethan G
09-22-2005, 12:30 PM
There was an article on this topic in the two plus two internet magazine a couple of months ago.

It's worth a read since some of the advice seemed a bit counterintuitive to me.

Good luck
Ethan

csuf_gambler
09-23-2005, 05:06 PM
sounds like the 4/8 game on UB

Jdanz
09-23-2005, 05:42 PM
meh, if i understand the raises pre-flop are normal size just not the blinds, therefore limp more in unraised pots, but in general you want to play tighter.

Simply speaking Hold 'Em is a contest for the blinds, as their size relative to pot size decreases the tighter you play, the bigger they are compared to total pot, the looser

dtbog
09-23-2005, 05:58 PM
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Yeah, limp more speculative hands, and limp some that you might raise with since your raises won't intimidate anyone preflop.

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This doesn't make sense.

Shouldn't you steal from the button with a much wider range?

Assuming folds around to you on the BN, and SB folds:

4/8, normal blinds, BB is getting 14:4 = 3.5:1 on a call
4/8, mini blinds, BB is getting 11:4 = 2.75:1 on a call

it seems like a raise means MORE now, not less.