KQ flops 2 pair, check raise?

[splashpot]

***** Hand History for Game 2753440623 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:15954227 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Wednesday, September 21, 23:10:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 14249 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 6: derdo_bitlis ( $895 )
Seat 9: DFahl420 ( $785 )
Seat 8: Translucity ( $785 )
Seat 1: Tonestor ( $675 )
Seat 7: FrankBernis ( $835 )
Seat 3: implman ( $800 )
Seat 10: NE2_LDO ( $1835 )
Seat 4: CapitalJA ( $775 )
Seat 2: vinnieboom ( $615 )
Trny:15954227 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Translucity [ Ks Qh ]
>You have options at Table 14262 Table!.
NE2_LDO folds.
Tonestor folds.
vinnieboom calls [15].
implman folds.
CapitalJA folds.
derdo_bitlis calls [15].
FrankBernis calls [15].
Translucity calls [5].
DFahl420 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, Qs, Kd ]
Translucity checks.
DFahl420 bets [45].
vinnieboom calls [45].
derdo_bitlis folds.
FrankBernis raises [150]
Translucity....pushes? calls?

Lead the flop or go for a check raise here? What do you make of the bet, call, raise?

[lastchance]

Raise. T300 in the pot... I guess I push.

Calling on this board absolutely sucks.

[splashpot]

Do you lead the flop or check raise?

I would go over him 2-3X, so 300-450. Tell him u mean business, and if he has AK, more chips for u.

[bawcerelli]

i like a check raise here because somebody surely caught a piece of that board and will bet it.

[adman2006]

That's a fairly co-ordinated board and it seems like they are all chasing straights and flushes to me, i'd be betting hard to protect my hand. No check-raise for me.
good luck

[bawcerelli]

players always bet their draws. if you check and it's bet, the pot is being built before it gets back to you. you can stick in a much bigger bet because the pot has been built. this will make the draws pay more heavily.

[GrekeHaus]

[ QUOTE ]
i like a check raise here because somebody surely caught a piece of that board and will bet it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Given that you have a king and a queen, it reduces the likely hood that somebody else hit a good hand here. Since it is a multiway pot, it is less likely someone will try to bluff. Given the draw-heavy board I think the best way to play this is to bet out initially. If someone else did get a piece of it, they might raise you and then you can push. If nobody got a piece of it other than a draw, you risk having it checked around and giving a free card. If someone has a draw, they might call you anyway. Betting out not only protects your hand, but maximizes the chances of getting all-in on the flop as well.

[Fatdogs12]

I agree you just cannot call here. the board is really nasty. a 10 or a J gives them the straight draw, but on the plus side you might get a caller with something like AK. Better to push and get a little then let them draw and loose a lot.

[adanthar]

Push and hit your 4 outer.

PS: Against certain players, although not in a 20+2 and you shouldn't even bother thinking about it, I would simply fold.

[bawcerelli]

i agree with greek that a free card is horrible. but i still like them putting money in the pot before they realize the strength of your hand. guess it's just the limit player in me.