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Bodhi

09-21-2005, 09:31 PM

I couldn't finnish my usual session today because of this hand. I feel ill and am going to get drunk. Flame away, call me a whiner, I don't care. Here's some pain and misery for you to enjoy:

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, 3 folds, Button calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 caps, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (14 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG folds, MP1 raises, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (26 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls $1 (All-In), Button calls.

Final Pot: 34.25 BB

Results:
MP1 shows 88 for two pairs, eights and fours
Button shows 77 for a full house, sevens full of fourse
Hero shows 66 for a full house, sixes full of sevens
Button wins 34.25BB

krubban

09-21-2005, 10:01 PM

I feel for you. That's just sick..

MyTurn2Raise

09-21-2005, 11:01 PM

especially since you made sixes full of sevens...lol

miami32

09-21-2005, 11:54 PM

bad things happen.

nervous

09-22-2005, 01:12 AM

I like his only calling of 2 on the river when he made 7's full.

Bremen

09-22-2005, 01:19 AM

I've been seeing this alot lately. People are hitting pocket pairs on the river against me. How they stay in till the river with pocket ducks with an A on board against a preflop raiser is beyond me. I just wish they'd keep doing it :0)

Buck_65

09-22-2005, 01:24 AM

It feels like these rivered 2 outer hands have happened to me about 50 times and they'll continue to happen when you play in good games. These 3 hands all happened within one week of each other. Hope this makes you feel a little better.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (11 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, SB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, UTG folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 folds, MP2 caps, Hero calls.

River: (16.50 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP2 calls $7.50 (All-In), Hero calls.

Final Pot: 24.25 BB

Hero has Th Td (full house, tens full of twos).
MP2 has 2s 2c (four of a kind, twos).
Outcome: MP2 wins 24.25 BB.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, Hero calls, 4 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero raises, CO calls, SB 3-bets, BB calls, Hero caps, CO calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (10 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, SB folds, BB calls.

River: (16 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 24 BB

Hero has 7d 7c (full house, sevens full of threes).
CO has 3c 3s (four of a kind, threes).
Outcome: CO wins 24 BB.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (9 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

SB has 4h 4s (four of a kind, fours).
Hero has 5c 5d (full house, fives full of fours).
Outcome: SB wins 17 BB.

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Nigel

09-22-2005, 01:48 AM

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These 3 hands all happened within one week of each other.

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EDIT: Lol, just saw all your hands were 1 outers. Ouch. 3 times in 1 week is a lot!

This game gets ugly.

Bodhi

09-22-2005, 02:03 AM

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Yours are even worse than mine. /images/graemlins/blush.gif Fwiw, I've lost to one-outers too, just not in 34BB pots.

Thanx for the sympathy.

Bodhi

09-22-2005, 02:04 AM

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especially since you made sixes full of sevens...lol

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ROFL!

smokylosecannon

09-22-2005, 02:50 AM

bodhi, this sucks. I mean... something like this happens to me too, but getting this kind of beat with 34BB pot just sucks. Oh well, think this way... You just made deposit to your saving account! maybe not...

hellite

09-22-2005, 04:35 PM

Actually dice, I think you are generally the one laying these kinds of beats. lol

Jorge10

09-22-2005, 05:37 PM

Ok its not a holdem beat, but after this one, I needed a nap.

Dealt to Hero [ 2c Tc 4h 2h ]
Folder calls [$4].
Villan calls [$4].
5 Folds.
Hero checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, 2d, 2s ]
Hero bets [$13.30].
Folder folds.
Villan raises [$53.20].
Hero raises [$159.60].
Villan calls [$119.70].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
Hero bets [$356.80].
Villan is all-In.
Hero calls [$56.98].
** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]
Hero shows [ 2c, Tc, 4h, 2h ] four of a kind, twos.
Villan shows [ Ac, 4d, 3d, 9h ] a straight flush, six high.

Also ended my session like you, maybe it wont make you feel bad about your beat.

SNOWBALL138

09-22-2005, 08:41 PM

Hi Bodhi,

I'm not saying that you are asking for sympathy, but if you are, let me lay some truth on you. No one here should have sympathy for you, and you shouldn't feel sorry for yourself either. This statement sounds harsh, but its the best thing I could ever say to you.

I want you to visualize yourself losing most of your bankroll. Realize that even though you might have a positive winrate and a reasonable S/D in the games that you play, you also have a certain risk of ruin. You know that this ROR exists. Visualize it occuring. Then visualize yourself saying loudly and with confidence "who gives a fcuk?" or something to that effect.

If you are unable to say that, then you shouldn't be playing poker as anything more than a very casual hobby.

Its good that you quit the game on that day though. It requires strength and realism to admit to yourself that you can't handle losing to a two outer on the river in a big pot versus a guy that had no business in the hand to begin with.

Best regards,
Snowball

09-22-2005, 08:58 PM

What - no one had 99?

Bodhi

09-23-2005, 08:55 PM

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I want you to visualize yourself losing most of your bankroll. Realize that even though you might have a positive winrate and a reasonable S/D in the games that you play, you also have a certain risk of ruin. You know that this ROR exists. Visualize it occuring. Then visualize yourself saying loudly and with confidence "who gives a fcuk?" or something to that effect.

If you are unable to say that, then you shouldn't be playing poker as anything more than a very casual hobby.

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Point taken. Thank you for exposing me to the honest, brutal truth of this game. I think I may quit online poker alltogether and start playing in drunken home games again.

TheHammer24

09-24-2005, 04:14 PM

What's button's and MP's sn's?

09-24-2005, 05:11 PM

10 minutes ago i flopped 3 10 10 holding pocket 3's into a raiser with JJ...J turn. It's been 4 weeks of this...haven't puked yet but it's on the way.

JohnnyHumongous

09-24-2005, 05:53 PM

I mean come on, can no one realize this is a phony hand? "fours" is misspelled as "fourse" at one point, and the OP's final hand is incorrectly displayed as "sixes full of sevens".

the hand never happened...

and incidentally, I have had two-day stretches 4-tabling 10/20 with more bad beats than you've had in your whole career. but you know what? I don't care. my banker doesn't care. girls at the bar don't care. the clerk at the Hermes store doesn't care. at the end of the day, I either take home the cash, or I don't. everyone in this thread should really sack the eff up.

Bluffoon

09-24-2005, 10:19 PM

Big deal this happened to me twice last week.

Subfallen

09-25-2005, 02:24 AM

You should not continue playing poker.

montechristo

09-25-2005, 03:31 PM

limit players do not know the meaning of a bad beat.

riseabove

09-25-2005, 07:09 PM

youre going to puke over this hand? first of all thats uber-small stakes, you lost what $15? that will barely pay for a twelve-pack of heineken.

start posting bad beats when you play 20/40 minimum. this is a joke.

riseabove

09-25-2005, 09:15 PM

oh 34.25 big BLINDS. you guys and your [censored] abreviations. still that dont even buy a bottle of dom.

skiier04

09-25-2005, 10:18 PM

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oh 34.25 big BLINDS. you guys and your [censored] abreviations. still that dont even buy a bottle of dom.

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youre an idiot

JohnnyHumongous

09-25-2005, 10:28 PM

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oh 34.25 big BLINDS. you guys and your [censored] abreviations. still that dont even buy a bottle of dom.

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youre an idiot

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nah, but he's got a point, OP CAN'T afford a bottle of dom.

Bodhi

09-26-2005, 01:20 PM

no, BB is "big bets," i.e. 34.25x4=$137

Not a huge amount of money, but more than a single buy-in.

As for those saying I should stop playing poker, I withdrew my entire bank roll a few days ago.

Nigel

09-26-2005, 01:27 PM

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no, BB is "big bets," i.e. 34.25x4=$137

Not a huge amount of money, but more than a single buy-in.

As for those saying I should stop playing poker, I withdrew my entire bank roll a few days ago.

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Seriously? Why?

Bodhi

09-26-2005, 01:44 PM

Despite the fact that I've won money pretty consistently over the past year online, I hate the swings and the bad beats from terrible players. No doubt, there are many things that I could improve in my game, but it's the psychological stress of it all that broke my will to continue playing so seriously. I know a lot of people here can sustain it, but I cannot. I may play to clear some bonuses in the future, but I need to take poker much less seriously in my life if I am going to enjoy it.

The origin of my problem is that I'm extremely competitive when I play games. I insist on winning every time and can't even think of going easier on inexperienced players or people I like (whether I'm playing chess, poker, or whatever...). This drive caused me to do the necessary and unnatural things for winning long-term at poker, but the short-term losses to people playing badly drives me insane.

bernie

09-26-2005, 02:37 PM

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start posting bad beats when you play 20/40 minimum

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If one is playing 20-40, they should be at the point where they never post a bad beat post like this. It's such a micro limit thing to do.

b

Nigel

09-26-2005, 05:29 PM

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Despite the fact that I've won money pretty consistently over the past year online, I hate the swings and the bad beats from terrible players. No doubt, there are many things that I could improve in my game, but it's the psychological stress of it all that broke my will to continue playing so seriously. I know a lot of people here can sustain it, but I cannot. I may play to clear some bonuses in the future, but I need to take poker much less seriously in my life if I am going to enjoy it.

The origin of my problem is that I'm extremely competitive when I play games. I insist on winning every time and can't even think of going easier on inexperienced players or people I like (whether I'm playing chess, poker, or whatever...). This drive caused me to do the necessary and unnatural things for winning long-term at poker, but the short-term losses to people playing badly drives me insane.

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I can understand that. It can be a brutal game. Good luck to you.

Nigel

winky51

09-27-2005, 04:20 PM

A real bad beat is when some shmuck CAPs you preflop and you hold AA.

The flop comes Ah Kc Ks and the dumbass CAPs the flop on you.

Then a 3h comes (rainbow) and the schmuck is still trying to bet and raise your full house.

Then the river comes a 4h and he still keeps betting. At this point you feel perhaps he actually does have KK for the quads and you are prepared to take the beat and say "nh". Instead the chump reveals 4h 2h for the steel wheeel and cackles in glee... all you can think about is 100 ways to strangle him.

Now thats a bad beat with idiot sause added in.

bwana devil

09-28-2005, 03:08 PM

Hero has Kh Js (three of a kind, kings).
UTG+1 has Ac 3c (one pair, kings).
MP3 has Jc Ts (two pair, kings and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 18.25 BB.

MP1 shows 88 for two pairs, eights and fours
Button shows 77 for a full house, sevens full of fourse
Hero shows 66 for a full house, sixes full of sevens
Button wins 34.25BB
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the top outcome is an example of how bison's converter actually produces the output.

you not only complain about bad beats but you lie about them too. odd hobby.

bwana

sfer

09-28-2005, 04:07 PM

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Now thats a bad beat with idiot sause added in.

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Well said.