"Official" Live at the Bike thread (9/21)

[Kevmath]

Tonight's game is scheduled to be their "Whale Game", a high limit game with many businessmen types and a couple of pros mixed in. The game was scheduled to be started at 4pm PT, but what limit game it is hasn't been found out yet. Last night's $200 min/max game was a rather odd one, with lots of erratic behavior and strange play. Head over to www.liveatthebike.com (http://www.liveatthebike.com) from 6-9pm PT to catch the action.

[cwsiggy]

Wednesday is always the best night for LATB. Should be a good one. Lets hope they have a few live ones in the game ala Corporation Mike or Jesus.

[Russ McGinley]

Wee, I got my new video card working just in time.

[TomHimself]

Lost starts in 10 mins though. will see whos playing but am gonna stick with lost

[Kevmath]

Hopefully the game will be worth the upgrade, I haven't heard from Bart yet about what tonight's game actually will be, so if you're browsing Bart, hurry up!

[Kevmath]

MSNBC's running it's own version of Lost over LA with a Jet Blue plane with bad landing gear making an emergency landing.

[spsurfin_Michael]

Lets for a good limit game tonight

[Kevmath]

Tonight's game is 50/100 NL 5k buyin first two tries, 10k on the 3rd buyin, 20k on the 4th. It has Hasan Habib, Yosh Nakano, etc.

[TomHimself]

why do they have a max of 5k? i dont understand, will the game not fill if set to max 10k?

[littledave]

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Wee, I got my new video card working just in time.

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What card did you get, Russ?

[Kevmath]

I think they set that up because most of the players aren't pros and don't want to be intimidated by someone bringing a huge stack of chips and running over the table.

[cwsiggy]

I'm not sure why they do that. I imagine to keep someone from buying in huge and running over the table like in any restricted game.

[cwsiggy]

I missed the turn action, but shouldn't you make a decent sized bet at some point with pocket QQ's even with the ace to "see where you're at"?

[littledave]

Will Hasan Habib (Hasan Habib!!!) get a chance to hit on the same Blue-Babe as last week? I see a couple of babes but none are sitting right up at the table... yet.

[Kevmath]

I'm surprised news networks were going to show the landing live, I recall there was a small plane that had trouble a few months ago and they taped the landing because they didn't want to show a plane crash on live TV.

It's a little strange being on this side.

Hey Shirley and Bart.

[Kevmath]

Wow a Friar Tuch apperance, and how did he get a special title after 15 posts? I demand my own special title as well.

How can a series about a plane crash go multiple seasons, explain that one to me. What happens if they go to season 3?

[Russ McGinley]

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Wee, I got my new video card working just in time.

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What card did you get, Russ?

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A piece of [censored]. MSI Radeon 9600 Pro. All kinds of issues, I've had to remove it and put back the old Radeon 7500. Back to Newegg with this POS.

how did I get that title? I don't like it.

great job guys! see ya tomorrow. I'm going to get some Sushi.

[cwsiggy]

I'm jealous. Sushi.

[Kevmath]

Take it easy Bart Jr., save some for the rest of us.

Can we get Ed into this game, we need him to liven it up a bit.

[Dunno]

Jummy!

[cwsiggy]

Updated chip counts at WPT : Evy Ng still in

John D'Agostino $1,929,000 3 3
Wooyang Lin $1,000,000 3 7
Al Ardebili $850,000 2 7
Ricardo Festejo $836,000 3 4
David Singer $830,000 2 9
Sidney Miller $780,000 2 1
Karlo Lopez $690,000 3 1
Robert Hwang $612,000 2 5
AVERAGE $605,882 0 0
Kathy Liebert $515,000 2 8
Greg Fondacaro $460,000 3 8
Evelyn Ng $451,000 2 3
Richard Kirsch $375,000 3 5
Carmine Tirone $295,000 3 9
David Pham $257,000 3 6
J.C. Tran $215,000 3 2
Surinder Sunar $110,000 2 4
Tom Martelli $100,000 2 6

[Kevmath]

That Average guy is always in the middle of the pack.

Basesd on Yosh's open ender, isn't running it twice in this instance a big odds benefit to yosh? That is based on pot odds etc. So, then is it always in his best interest to run it multiple times?

[cold_cash]

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That Average guy is always in the middle of the pack.

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Boooooo.

[cwsiggy]

He must be a new phenom on the poker tour. His name pops up all the time now on Cardplayer's coverage. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Dunno]

funny that actionbob is still in it (hwang) (i think)

[cwsiggy]

Shirley - that count is it on the remaining players.

[Kevmath]

There's 16 left, Ng busted Martelli.

[Russ McGinley]

Gahhh! That was no stop bet! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

[BarronVangorToth]

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Lost starts in 10 mins though. will see whos playing but am gonna stick with lost

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Lost was amazing - don't worry, no spoilers...

Looks like a decent game and Bart is already raving about a stop bet.

And the wheel keeps on a'spinnin'...

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

[lighterjobs]

what's with all the hot women around the table?

[Kevmath]

They sit there to promote pokerblue.com the site that sponsors the "Whale Game" Wednesday nights.

[Russ McGinley]

I like how Jamie Foxx in seat 1 is trying to explain to the Poker Blue girl why he's going to fold. Like she gives a damn.

[cwsiggy]

John in seat 1 thinks the poker blue girl is so interested.

[lighterjobs]

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John in seat 1 thinks the poker blue girl is so interested.

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he laid down nines on the 9TQK three flush board. how could she not want to jump his bones with those instincts?

[cold_cash]

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Jamie Foxx

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Awesome.

[cwsiggy]

If you are going to call the turn with 6-9 and you hit your 9, what is the point if you are just going to fold t any bet anyway. In other words, why play it anyway, and worse, what are you trying to accomplish by calling the turn. yikes.

[deepdowntruth]

"LIKE IT WAS NOTHING."

[cwsiggy]

Bart - you need to start saying "Like ya read about!" Please just once?

[Russ McGinley]

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Bart - you need to start saying "Like ya read about!" Please just once?

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"I caught a frozen wave of cards like you [censored]' read about."

[Kevmath]

Bart needs to work on his catchphrases, because that one isn't working.

By the way, what happened to the board o' signatures?

[ahnuld]

He shoulda come overthetop preflop with TT, stupid call.

[ahnuld]

lol, john cant play for [censored] son

[cwsiggy]

And seat 5 wins again. The rich get richer.

[spsurfin_Michael]

Ouch....what a bad all in move by seat 1

[ahnuld]

alright, back to lost on dvd for the next 10 hours.

[Russ McGinley]

Why does Yosh look like he's about 10 years old? Must be da shirt.

[BarronVangorToth]

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alright, back to lost on dvd for the next 10 hours.

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No one's going to tell you what you can't do.

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

[lighterjobs]

he calls like it's something!

[cwsiggy]

FYI - the young kid Jordan Berkowitz? who just won the WCOOP event on Stars for 550k+ just dropped close to 50k playing like 20+ $5k heads up sit n' gos losing to Noah (Exclusive) and many others. Total meltdown.

[Russ McGinley]

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he calls like it's something!

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Complete the trifecta:

He raises like its everything!

[deepdowntruth]

Can you imagine though if Phil Rizzuto had to read a live thread mid-game with a bunch of a-holes saying "Holy Cow!".

I'll leave Bart alone.

[lighterjobs]

Tuan wasn't the only one, Loi has been tipping $2 all night.

[lighterjobs]

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FYI - the young kid Jordan Berkowitz? who just won the WCOOP event on Stars for 550k+ just dropped close to 50k playing like 20+ $5k heads up sit n' gos losing to Noah (Exclusive) and many others. Total meltdown.

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is he still playing as panella?

[Kevmath]

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FYI - the young kid Jordan Berkowitz? who just won the WCOOP event on Stars for 550k+ just dropped close to 50k playing like 20+ $5k heads up sit n' gos losing to Noah (Exclusive) and many others. Total meltdown.

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Maybe he needs to ride piggyback on Brett_Favre again.

[cwsiggy]

Unless that was someone else playing earlier tonight under that name.I think he did borrow that id for the tourney. But since he just won 500k, I can't imagine it was anyone else tonight.

[cwsiggy]

Hey everyone look at me. I play Magic the Gathering and poker really well. I just lost 50k playing Sit n' Go's with a bunch of sharks that kept asking me to keep playing.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/cwsiggy/jordan.jpg

[DeadMoneyOC]

hhhhhhmmmmmmm Is that how you play poker?

[cwsiggy]

Ouch - the river of dreams. 20k.

[Russ McGinley]

Holy [censored] what a river. Frank is on a Francisco-like run.

[lighterjobs]

frank mariani,

please adopt me.

[ugaistheteam]

Wild hand. Hey Shirley, see you on the tables soon....UGA

[DeadMoneyOC]

He is the GM of the Lakers right? Buss right hand man or something?

[cwsiggy]

Bart said he is business partners with Jerry. DOn't know if that means he owns part of the Lakers or just owns the t-shirt stand.

[ugaistheteam]

Not top two Bart, Top and bottom pair......UGA

[Russ McGinley]

What is this, Riverstars?

[cwsiggy]

I bet Frank donks off a good chunk of his 37k.

[wdeadwyler]

As poorly as Frank played his A10o, he made the right choice NOT to run it, as this would lower his variance and converge his winnings on the hand towards his EV, which is massively negative.

[whalekock]

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Bart said he is business partners with Jerry. DOn't know if that means he owns part of the Lakers or just owns the t-shirt stand.

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He is his Real Estate Partner, I beleive. Plus the Dr. in Dr. Buss is for a PhD in chemistry, which most people know make the best real estate moguls.

[cwsiggy]

Must be nice being in California real estate!

Any Math Pro's who don't belive in LUCK have never seen Frank Play Poker! LOL

[KidPokerX]

Hey you two on the live cam. Take a shot of you and the girl - she sounds hot.
thanks
brian

[Russ McGinley]

Actually the 7 Card Stretch is played towards the end of a game of 7 Card Ball.

[ugaistheteam]

There are plenty of pics of Shirley online. Go to pokerbabes.com That is her site......UGA

Bart: If you see this remember Frank won the $5000.00 Freze-Out on LUCK! So if you belive in luck or a "Rush" what would be the EV of Frank's Luck?

[DeadMoneyOC]

WOW! Yosh needs to go home! When your running bad you need to quit bro! Who is that black guy in the 1 seat? Some random rich guy?

[cwsiggy]

Shirly /images/graemlins/heart.gif boys.

[SeppDeitrich]

Actually the overall EV is not the same when you run it twice. They don't shuffle the first turn and river card back into the deck before dealing the second time, so if you hit your hand on the first try, you will have fewer outs in the deck to hit the second time. This lowers the EV for the drawing hand.

[whalekock]

I bet Frank could have anybody in SoCal whacked if he wanted.

[Russ McGinley]

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Who is that black guy in the 1 seat?

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http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/896/40872953foxx220afp6cn.jpg

Why are there young women sitting behind all these players who are wearing the same shirts and look oblivious to anything that is going on?

[wdeadwyler]

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Actually the overall EV is not the same when you run it twice. They don't shuffle the first turn and river card back into the deck before dealing the second time, so if you hit your hand on the first try, you will have fewer outs in the deck to hit the second time. This lowers the EV for the drawing hand.

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lo veo, es la verdad, gracias

[Kevmath]

It's called promotion for the site sponsoring the game, pokerblue.com

[whalekock]

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Why are there young women sitting behind all these players who are wearing the same shirts and look oblivious to anything that is going on?

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What, you've never been to an L.A. cardroom. It's normal here in SoCal. Plus all the Sushi joints have naked chicks to eat off of.

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It's called promotion for the site sponsoring the game, pokerblue.com

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Ok, so these girls are not with these gentlemen then?

[scdavis0]

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Actually the overall EV is not the same when you run it twice. They don't shuffle the first turn and river card back into the deck before dealing the second time, so if you hit your hand on the first try, you will have fewer outs in the deck to hit the second time. This lowers the EV for the drawing hand.

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lo veo, es la verdad, gracias

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Actually he's wrong. The EV is exactly the same.

Do you see why?

if these games are live and televised without any delay what keeps anyone from telling the players what cards everyone has. via cell or msg??? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[BartHanson]

Quite an exciting show tonight. Frank M took down some monster pots and is running pretty hot. I'll give you guys an update on how the game ends tomorrow.

On another note running the river multiple times does not change your overall expected value. Although the result of the previous runs do effect the future runs, if you take the runs as a package the overall EV stays the same. Thats why I made the blackjack analogy. The chances that you win 3 blackjack hands in a row at the beginning of a shoe are about the same~12%. If you take into account the cards tht ave been dealt by counting hand 1 your chances of winning hand 2 are different. I hope this clears things up. Thanks for watching.
Bart

[Kevmath]

The show is broadcast on a 5 minute delay, and no cell phones/pagers/electronics devices are allowed at the table.