Aggro Play

[TheRempel]

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $1.00 BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB ($26.75)
BB ($30.15)
UTG ($102.05)
UTG+1 ($38.30)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($132.15)
Hero ($151.90)
CO ($89.80)
Button ($66.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif. MP1 posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls $1, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $4</font>, UTG calls $3, MP1 calls $3, MP2 calls $3, Hero calls $3, Button calls $3, SB calls $3.

Flop: ($28) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, UTG calls $5, MP1 calls $5, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, Button folds, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls $35.

Turn: ($118) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, MP1 calls $56 (All-In).

River: ($234) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $234

Comments?

I like it. Put the BB on a continuation/AAxx bet, and MP5 (who also would have suspected this) would have more than likely made the move first had he had a set.

FYI I play top-two pair the same exact way.

[joewatch]

Looks OK to me. I put MP1 on something like 9TJQ or 9TQK

[Acesover8s]

This statement:

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Looks OK to me.

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Is completely contradictory to this statement:

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I put MP1 on something like 9TJQ or 9TQK

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In regards to this hand.

You have said, "I put your opponent on a hand that completely crushes you. I think you have played well by committing all your chips against that hand"

[dibbs]

I read his post as sarcastic? I've been way off in reading sarcasm lately though.

[BluffTHIS!]

Sure aces was being sarcastic and properly so. It seems clear that MP1 has a drawing hand as well, so not only did hero get allin versus that hand on the turn with a hand likely to be dominated kicker-wise and drawing to a split, he also forfeited the power of his position and any river bluffing ability by doing so.

[Tilt]

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You have said, "I put your opponent on a hand that completely crushes you. I think you have played well by committing all your chips against that hand"

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Classic.

[liquid]

Bluff, I think dibbs was telling aces that he thought joe was being sarcastic to... ah, forget it.

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Bluff, I think dibbs was telling aces that he thought joe was being sarcastic to... ah, forget it.

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Yes, yes, I think you are on to it. This branch is making my head spin a bit.

To me, the real question is what did MP1 have: 8-8-x-x or some type of straight draw.

It is also possible, though much less likely, that he had J-J-x-x or J-8-x-x. I know, I know, J-J-x-x should have reraised the flop and J-8-x-x should have folded on the turn, but crazier things have happened in those PL100 games. He could have been one of the crazy HE players slow-playing his set and letting our OP "trap" himself

[liquid]

MP1's call of both BB's bet and your raise is eerily reminiscent of hands where foes ended up showing me a flopped bottom/middle set. Irritating.

Is there any reason not to raise full pot on the flop? The stacks don't seem deep enough to me to make pot control a significant consideration for a turn push. Seems like any fold equity is working on the flop or not at all.

[TheRempel]

I know my opponent very well. Any set or two pair, and he would have pushed the flop 100% of the time. Any huge draw, and he would have pushed the flop 100% of the time. Any weak draw, he is liable to check-call the whole way. His most likely holding here is 9Txx.

[TheRempel]

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MP1's call of both BB's bet and your raise is eerily reminiscent of hands where foes ended up showing me a flopped bottom/middle set. Irritating.


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He is not that tricky.

[joewatch]

Results?

[TheRempel]

He had 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif T /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif for a big wrap. His play baffles me, but I was still a decent favorite on the flop, winning 55% and tieing 24%

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1238358
pokenum -o qc 9d 7s td - 9c js 9h tc -- 8d jh 2s
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 2s 8d Jh
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
7s Qc Td 9d 170 20.73 451 55.00 199 24.27 0.329
Js Tc 9c 9h 451 55.00 170 20.73 199 24.27 0.671

[joewatch]

That is why passive guys are fish. Would you have called a reraise?

[TheRempel]

From this player, 100% of the time. He's generally not passive. He pushes a lot of weak draws and bottom two pair hands. 9T and two blanks is the only hand I could imagine him having here.