clip of a guy getting knocked out

[chuddo]

pretty violent. (http://www.big-boys.com/articles/asswhoop.html)

basically guy runs his mouth forever and acts like a hard ass. then some car pulls up on the street, guy gets out, and then it is game over for the trash-talker.

brutal.

[maxpower72]

Since when did it become OK to beat a man when he is down. I am all for knocking out the idiot trash talker but once he is out there is no need to continue beating him.

[zephed]

Freaking Fabulous.

[jakethebake]

Helluva punch! A lead right off the wrong foot and that guy was out before he hit the ground. Anyone know how I can save this to harddrive?

[jokerthief]

The guy talk's [censored] and says he's down and then just lets the other guy walk up and get a free shot. This is why I don't talk in these situations. If you're not ready to act you got nothing to say, if you're ready to act there's no need for words.

[Slow Play Ray]

wow.

[Yeti]

jeez.

that punch by the fat black guy in the pizza shop is still the most insane though.

[LetYouDown]

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Helluva punch! A lead right off the wrong foot and that guy was out before he hit the ground. Anyone know how I can save this to harddrive?

[/ QUOTE ]
Right-Click, Save As (http://media5.big-boys.com/content/asswhoop.wmv)

[Paluka]

why on earth was someonee videotaping this?

[jakethebake]

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why on earth was someonee videotaping this?

[/ QUOTE ]

You never know when the cops will show up and start beating someone down and you'll need the tape as evidence.

[steelcmg]

He got Knocked the FCUK OUT!

[JayLear]

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Since when did it become OK to beat a man when he is down.

[/ QUOTE ]
When the potential for concealed weapons made it imperative that the man stay down...

[Dave G.]

Sweet punch.

[LetYouDown]

Generally don't enjoy videos of someone getting their ass kicked, that guy seemed to have it coming though. Maybe not as rough as it was. I'm happier to live in the suburbs with my white picket fences every time I see something like that, lol.

[Dave G.]

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jeez.

that punch by the fat black guy in the pizza shop is still the most insane though.

[/ QUOTE ]

Link?

NSFW? Lot's of profanity.
http://www.muchosucko.com/video-pizzabeating.html

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ghettofight.html

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ptcruiser.html

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/beatasnitch.html

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/204/

Some suckerpunch goodness for ya.

[KaneKungFu123]

im pretty sure that guy is going to jail for a year or so if charges are pressed.

[touchfaith]

[ QUOTE ]
NSFW? Lot's of profanity.
http://www.muchosucko.com/video-pizzabeating.html

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ghettofight.html

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ptcruiser.html

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/beatasnitch.html

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/204/

Some suckerpunch goodness for ya.

[/ QUOTE ]


What a bunch of [censored] losers.

[LetYouDown]

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im pretty sure that guy is going to jail for a year or so if charges are pressed.

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I can't decide whether I think that would fit the crime or not. While you're undoubtedly right, would it be deserved? I mean, the guy seemed bent on fighting. If the guy coming out of the car got his ass kicked, I don't think my feelings would be the same. Only reason I can see for that punishment is the guy was basically out cold and he kept firing.

Yeah the guy that seems to think he owns the 7-11 parking lot seems very ridiulous. Just a bunch of pack mentality simpletons.

[steelcmg]

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ghettofight.html


Yea this sh it pisses me off i would be hunting that fcuk down later on with a bat and busting his dam face in.

[KaneKungFu123]

brutal.

can only hope that guy is in prison, but then you fear for his cell-mate.

i remember in highschool when black kids would pick fights like that and some RETARD white kid would try to save face and act tough (assuming there would be no altercation) and he'd get beat up badly.

never happened to me but id just turn around and get the [censored] out of there. better yet, dont piss off poor black people.

[KaneKungFu123]

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http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ghettofight.html

Yea this sh it pisses me off i would be hunting that fcuk down later on with a bat and busting his dam face in.

[/ QUOTE ]

Word Up Essay!

represent ya hood and shiat

[steelcmg]

[ QUOTE ]
NSFW? Lot's of profanity.
http://www.muchosucko.com/video-pizzabeating.html

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ghettofight.html

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ptcruiser.html

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/beatasnitch.html

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/204/

Some suckerpunch goodness for ya.

[/ QUOTE ]

Im not a rasist but doesnt it seem F"ED up that all of these people r black. And also i remember this being a regular kind of think in HS with black people doing this Sh IT.

[KaneKungFu123]

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im pretty sure that guy is going to jail for a year or so if charges are pressed.

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I can't decide whether I think that would fit the crime or not. While you're undoubtedly right, would it be deserved? I mean, the guy seemed bent on fighting. If the guy coming out of the car got his ass kicked, I don't think my feelings would be the same. Only reason I can see for that punishment is the guy was basically out cold and he kept firing.

[/ QUOTE ]

are you joking?

the guy is laying on the floor out cold and the guy stands there beating the [censored] out of him.

you cant get out of your car. walk 30 ft and beat up someone as self defense because they are talking [censored] 30 ft away about fighting. the guy didnt even get a chance to raise his hands. that guy should go to prison and there should be serious psychoanalyzation done on him before hes let back into society. i cant imagine hitting someone like that laying defenseless on the ground. sick.

[LetYouDown]

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Im not a rasist but doesnt it seem F"ED up that all of these people r black. And also i remember this being a regular kind of think in HS with black people doing this Sh IT.

[/ QUOTE ]
This is because black people generally know how to fight. Two white guys fighting is generally not entertaining. Not that I find any of this overly entertaining anyway.

[KaneKungFu123]

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[ QUOTE ]
NSFW? Lot's of profanity.
http://www.muchosucko.com/video-pizzabeating.html

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ghettofight.html

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ptcruiser.html

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/beatasnitch.html

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/204/

Some suckerpunch goodness for ya.

[/ QUOTE ]

Im not a rasist but doesnt it seem F"ED up that all of these people r black. And also i remember this being a regular kind of think in HS with black people doing this Sh IT.

[/ QUOTE ]

in miami the spanish kids probally fight more then black kids.

[steelcmg]

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Im not a rasist but doesnt it seem F"ED up that all of these people r black. And also i remember this being a regular kind of think in HS with black people doing this Sh IT.

[/ QUOTE ]
This is because black people generally know how to fight. Two white guys fighting is generally not entertaining. Not that I find any of this overly entertaining anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea i agree black people r better fighters but is something different in there brains that make them want to fight more.

[KaneKungFu123]

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Im not a rasist but doesnt it seem F"ED up that all of these people r black. And also i remember this being a regular kind of think in HS with black people doing this Sh IT.

[/ QUOTE ]
This is because black people generally know how to fight. Two white guys fighting is generally not entertaining. Not that I find any of this overly entertaining anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea i agree black people r better fighters but is something different in there brains that make them want to fight more.

[/ QUOTE ]

jesus. i wish i never opened this thread.

[jakethebake]

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Yea i agree black people r better fighters but is something different in there brains that make them want to fight more.

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jesus. i wish i never opened this thread.

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On average in the U.S. blacks grow up in a more violent environment. This may program them to be more violent people.

Using boxing as an example: The best boxers do not grow up in the suburbs. Back in the early part of this century, there were a number of very good Italian, Jewish and Irish boxers that came from poor neighborhoods and grew up in similar backgrounds. Today, there are more good hispanic and black boxers because that's who grows up in violent surroundings.

Someone (maybe Cus D'Amato?) said "the most telling commodity in boxing is violence." The people that have grown up with the most capacity for violence will tend to be better fighters.

That was probably staged. The guy who came out of the car definitely wasn't hitting very hard after he put the other guy down. You can tell he's pulling his punches. If a guy took ten full-strength bare-knuckle punches with no defense and his head on a concrete sidewalk, he'd be a bloody mess.

[KaneKungFu123]

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http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ghettofight.html



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im embarrassed for the human race.

[touchfaith]

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Im not a rasist but doesnt it seem F"ED up that all of these people r black. And also i remember this being a regular kind of think in HS with black people doing this Sh IT.

[/ QUOTE ]
This is because black people generally know how to fight. Two white guys fighting is generally not entertaining. Not that I find any of this overly entertaining anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea i agree black people r better fighters but is something different in there brains that make them want to fight more.

[/ QUOTE ]

jesus. i wish i never opened this thread.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yet, you keep reading and posting to it...

[LetYouDown]

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That was probably staged. The guy who came out of the car definitely wasn't hitting very hard after he put the other guy down. You can tell he's pulling his punches. If a guy took ten full-strength bare-knuckle punches with no defense and his head on a concrete sidewalk, he'd be a bloody mess.

[/ QUOTE ]
I don't buy that it was staged. I agree, it does seem like he was pulling his punches a bit once the guy was down. Maybe he was tired from winding up for the first one /images/graemlins/cool.gif.

[steelcmg]

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Yea i agree black people r better fighters but is something different in there brains that make them want to fight more.

[/ QUOTE ]

jesus. i wish i never opened this thread.

[/ QUOTE ]

On average in the U.S. blacks grow up in a more violent environment. This may program them to be more violent people.

Using boxing as an example: The best boxers do not grow up in the suburbs. Back in the early part of this century, there were a number of very good Italian, Jewish and Irish boxers that came from poor neighborhoods and grew up in similar backgrounds. Today, there are more good hispanic and black boxers because that's who grows up in violent surroundings.

Someone (maybe Cus D'Amato?) said "the most telling commodity in boxing is violence." The people that have grown up with the most capacity for violence will tend to be better fighters.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea that makes sence its still nuts that people still go around and try to start fights like this for no reason at all.

Like this one time my uncles really good friend and his wife where walking home from a bar in philly and where jumped by about 10 nizi punks. They where almost dead when someone found them and they where in the hospital for over a month. But also the nizis just so happend to pick the wrong people to [censored] with because my uncle and his friends have a very strong biker gathering and they stick together. No they are not pegans or anything but bikers are tru brothers when it comes to something like this. Anyway they knew who did this to the guy and the bikers took revange.

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i'm embarrassed for the human race.

[/ QUOTE ]
I find this one more embarrassing.
http://www.muchosucko.com/video-pizzabeating.html
Six or so grown men standing around watching an innocent guy get beat down by a gorilla. I guarantee that [censored] didn't happen in Texas.

[KaneKungFu123]

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Yea i agree black people r better fighters but is something different in there brains that make them want to fight more.

[/ QUOTE ]

jesus. i wish i never opened this thread.

[/ QUOTE ]

On average in the U.S. blacks grow up in a more violent environment. This may program them to be more violent people.

Using boxing as an example: The best boxers do not grow up in the suburbs. Back in the early part of this century, there were a number of very good Italian, Jewish and Irish boxers that came from poor neighborhoods and grew up in similar backgrounds. Today, there are more good hispanic and black boxers because that's who grows up in violent surroundings.

Someone (maybe Cus D'Amato?) said "the most telling commodity in boxing is violence." The people that have grown up with the most capacity for violence will tend to be better fighters.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea that makes sence its still nuts that people still go around and try to start fights like this for no reason at all.

Like this one time my uncles really good friend and his wife where walking home from a bar in philly and where jumped by about 10 nizi punks. They where almost dead when someone found them and they where in the hospital for over a month. But also the nizis just so happend to pick the wrong people to [censored] with because my uncle and his friends have a very strong biker gathering and they stick together. No they are not pegans or anything but bikers are tru brothers when it comes to something like this. Anyway they knew who did this to the guy and the bikers took revange.

[/ QUOTE ]

how old are you?

[-Skeme-]

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That was probably staged. The guy who came out of the car definitely wasn't hitting very hard after he put the other guy down. You can tell he's pulling his punches. If a guy took ten full-strength bare-knuckle punches with no defense and his head on a concrete sidewalk, he'd be a bloody mess.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol.

[KaneKungFu123]

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i'm embarrassed for the human race.

[/ QUOTE ]
I find this one more embarrassing.
http://www.muchosucko.com/video-pizzabeating.html
Six or so grown men standing around watching an innocent guy get beat down by a gorilla. I guarantee that [censored] didn't happen in Texas.

[/ QUOTE ]

what are they supposed to do?

the people in there probally have never even been in a real tough fight before. they look pretty shocked. are they all supposed to jump on top on him? its like the how many 5 year olds question. id lay 5 to 1 that monkey would rip them all to shreads.

[Bradyams]

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Im not a rasist but doesnt it seem F"ED up that all of these people r black. And also i remember this being a regular kind of think in HS with black people doing this Sh IT.

[/ QUOTE ]
This is because black people generally know how to fight. Two white guys fighting is generally not entertaining. Not that I find any of this overly entertaining anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea i agree black people r better fighters but is something different in there brains that make them want to fight more.

[/ QUOTE ]

jesus. i wish i never opened this thread.

[/ QUOTE ]

What steel said was a little blunt I agree, but there is a valid question there.

It's the same as "Why are black people in general better athletes?" It's not a stereotype, but a generalization, and it's pretty obvious that black people are much better athletes than any other race.

So if there is something different about blacks that gives them this athletic edge, isn't it just as valid that there could be something different about black people that makes them generally more prone to be aggressive, and get into fights or break the law more than the average person?

[steelcmg]

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Yea i agree black people r better fighters but is something different in there brains that make them want to fight more.

[/ QUOTE ]

jesus. i wish i never opened this thread.

[/ QUOTE ]

On average in the U.S. blacks grow up in a more violent environment. This may program them to be more violent people.

Using boxing as an example: The best boxers do not grow up in the suburbs. Back in the early part of this century, there were a number of very good Italian, Jewish and Irish boxers that came from poor neighborhoods and grew up in similar backgrounds. Today, there are more good hispanic and black boxers because that's who grows up in violent surroundings.

Someone (maybe Cus D'Amato?) said "the most telling commodity in boxing is violence." The people that have grown up with the most capacity for violence will tend to be better fighters.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea that makes sence its still nuts that people still go around and try to start fights like this for no reason at all.

Like this one time my uncles really good friend and his wife where walking home from a bar in philly and where jumped by about 10 nizi punks. They where almost dead when someone found them and they where in the hospital for over a month. But also the nizis just so happend to pick the wrong people to [censored] with because my uncle and his friends have a very strong biker gathering and they stick together. No they are not pegans or anything but bikers are tru brothers when it comes to something like this. Anyway they knew who did this to the guy and the bikers took revange.

[/ QUOTE ]

how old are you?

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23

[steelcmg]

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Im not a rasist but doesnt it seem F"ED up that all of these people r black. And also i remember this being a regular kind of think in HS with black people doing this Sh IT.

[/ QUOTE ]
This is because black people generally know how to fight. Two white guys fighting is generally not entertaining. Not that I find any of this overly entertaining anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea i agree black people r better fighters but is something different in there brains that make them want to fight more.

[/ QUOTE ]

jesus. i wish i never opened this thread.

[/ QUOTE ]

What steel said was a little blunt I agree, but there is a valid question there.

It's the same as "Why are black people in general better athletes?" It's not a stereotype, but a generalization, and it's pretty obvious that black people are much better athletes than any other race.

So if there is something different about blacks that gives them this athletic edge, isn't it just as valid that there could be something different about black people that makes them generally more prone to be aggressive, and get into fights or break the law more than the average person?

[/ QUOTE ]

I think it could be a strong possiblity. And sorry for making it so blunt i figured i would just get straight to my point. I just remember in HS which was about 50/50 blacks to everyone else. They seemed to want to start fights alot more over really stupid things then everyone else.

Yeah they should have jumped in there. No way he could take them all on if they had any balls. Kicks, to the side of the knee, groin and punches to the chin would lay him out.

At least try to get between them while he's stomping the guy on the ground. "Alright enough man, you beat the guy down. Look at him. Have mercy man."

But I'm a former correctional officer so I'm probably a little less averse to catching an ass beating than most.

[JihadOnTheRiver]

[ QUOTE ]
beat down by a gorilla.

[/ QUOTE ]
this is very funny

[KaneKungFu123]

i think jake spelled it out.

black people = poor = bad enviroment = higher capacity for violence and viscousness.

blacks are better athletes because of their muscle fiber type i believe (fast twitch) i think.

[jokerthief]

[ QUOTE ]
That was probably staged. The guy who came out of the car definitely wasn't hitting very hard after he put the other guy down. You can tell he's pulling his punches. If a guy took ten full-strength bare-knuckle punches with no defense and his head on a concrete sidewalk, he'd be a bloody mess.

[/ QUOTE ]

He didn't land the kick to the face.

[touchfaith]

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i think jake spelled it out.

black people = poor = bad enviroment = higher capacity for violence and viscousness.

blacks are better athletes because of their muscle fiber type i believe (fast twitch) i think.

[/ QUOTE ]

Uh, yeah, either that, or jakes as big a racist as you.

I think racial tendencies extend beyond physical traits to mental traits and general disposition.

I still judge people by what's in them and not how they look though. I hope that excludes me from the 'racist' tag.

[LetYouDown]

There are [insert racial epithet here] in every race. I tend to think you can get a pretty good idea about someone by their appearance. I've had several black friends that I would consider close and never had a single problem with them. However, I've seen black people that I could instantly tell were bad news. Same goes for white people and hispanic and indian, etc. etc.

[steelcmg]

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There are [insert racial epithet here] in every race. I tend to think you can get a pretty good idea about someone by their appearance. I've had several black friends that I would consider close and never had a single problem with them. However, I've seen black people that I could instantly tell were bad news. Same goes for white people and hispanic and indian, etc. etc.

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I agree with this i had a few guys we hung out with in college that dressed nice and would go out of there way to help u. But then there where some other black guys that came to a party we hand that just looked like trouble. Sure enough they ended up being trouble.

[-Skeme-]

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blacks are better athletes because of their muscle fiber type i believe (fast twitch) i think.

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You're such an idiot.

[raisins]

Part of the controversy over attributing African American success in athletics has to do with the possibility that slaves were bred for size and muscle mass. Since Americans valorize sports to the degree that we do any community looks at its sports heros as role models and proud representatives of their ethnicity. Giving part of the credit for those accomplishments to the legacy of slavery is not going to be a real popular notion with the black community. That being said, there is probably something to the argument. I don't think that Africans in general have shown all that great of athletic superiority. East(?) Africans have had tremendous success in long distance running due to a genetic predisposition to a certain type of muscle fiber but that is a limited case. My point is that Africans, as far as I know, do not show athletic superiority across a wide range of sports.

As to whether Africans or African Americans have a genetic predisposition to aggressive violent behavior that's a question that is probably impossible to answer at this point. Since links to traits like alcoholism have been shown to have a genetic predisposition it's clear that we can't rule it out. However, there's a ton of variables that are tough to account for. Most ethnicities have a period in their history where under similar environmental conditions they showed similar tendencies towards violence. jakethebake gave the example of the Irish, Italian and Jewish slums at the turn of the century. Go back 150 years and there was tremendous violence in the back country among Protestant anglo and aryan whites with "rough and tumble" fights that frequently allowed for eye gouging. Until the geneticists isolate a gene I'm going to think root causes rest with the environment.

This is a different issue but I also think there are elements of African American culture that make violence more acceptable and in some ways encourage people to act out violently. I'm thinking here of stuff like emphasizing "getting over" on people, scorning acadmenic success as being fake, respect for power independent of responsibility, a focus on short term satisfaction, etc. Most of these are likely common amongst any group in poverty again pointing to the importance of environment.

regards,

raisins

[chuddo]

some comedian had a bit that centered around "the lower you are on the socio-economic ladder, the better a fighter you are". the went through the ranks of whites, blacks, mexicans, the irish, indians, etc etc.

i don't remember who it was or all the details, mainly because it wasn't particularly funny.

[Blarg]

Talk about idiots.

The best part was when the guy's friend's didn't do a thing to help him. LOL

Everyone in that clip was a total jerk.

[LoaferGee12]

WTF is going on in your avatar?

[LetYouDown]

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WTF is going on in your avatar?

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Looks like an undershot from a glass table where a guy looks like he's snorting coke but it ends up being a kitten's tail? LOL...either way, it's very strange.

[Eurotrash]

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Word Up Essay!

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lol




edit: also, that beating was brutal.

[ScottyP431]

Am i the only one who at some level thought this would be a clip of that blog girl womping on chuddo?

[offTopic]

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Word Up Essay!

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lol



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...and I thought "compa" was short for "compadre", but it must be "composition".

[Blarg]

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NSFW? Lot's of profanity.
http://www.muchosucko.com/video-pizzabeating.html

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ghettofight.html

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ptcruiser.html

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/beatasnitch.html

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/204/

Some suckerpunch goodness for ya.

[/ QUOTE ]

Im not a rasist but doesnt it seem F"ED up that all of these people r black. And also i remember this being a regular kind of think in HS with black people doing this Sh IT.

[/ QUOTE ]

in miami the spanish kids probally fight more then black kids.

[/ QUOTE ]

That tough guy in the last one sucks ass hugely. Bragging about how great he is, then waits till the guy can't see him and comes up nearly behind him and sucker punches him, then goes on again about how cool he is while kicking him while he's down.

What a total bitch of a loser.

The guy he hit was kind of funny too, trying hard to do the cobra-back thing with no muscles to make like he wasn't actually a skinny dude.

The big mouthed sucker puncher was the bigger loser though. This guy sucks.

[raisins]

just gettin high, we all have our own kicks...

raisins

p.s. no, I have no idea how they did that.

[utmt40]

The first one was kinda funny because the guy deserved it but those last five just pissed me off.

[bravos1]

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NSFW? Lot's of profanity.
http://www.muchosucko.com/video-pizzabeating.html

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ghettofight.html

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ptcruiser.html

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/beatasnitch.html

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/204/

Some suckerpunch goodness for ya.

[/ QUOTE ]

Im not a rasist but doesnt it seem F"ED up that all of these people r black. And also i remember this being a regular kind of think in HS with black people doing this Sh IT.

[/ QUOTE ]

in miami the spanish kids probally fight more then black kids.

[/ QUOTE ]

I call BS here... I grew up in Miami.

[Brock Landers]

[ QUOTE ]
Part of the controversy over attributing African American success in athletics has to do with the possibility that slaves were bred for size and muscle mass. Since Americans valorize sports to the degree that we do any community looks at its sports heros as role models and proud representatives of their ethnicity. Giving part of the credit for those accomplishments to the legacy of slavery is not going to be a real popular notion with the black community. That being said, there is probably something to the argument. I don't think that Africans in general have shown all that great of athletic superiority. East(?) Africans have had tremendous success in long distance running due to a genetic predisposition to a certain type of muscle fiber but that is a limited case. My point is that Africans, as far as I know, do not show athletic superiority across a wide range of sports.

As to whether Africans or African Americans have a genetic predisposition to aggressive violent behavior that's a question that is probably impossible to answer at this point. Since links to traits like alcoholism have been shown to have a genetic predisposition it's clear that we can't rule it out. However, there's a ton of variables that are tough to account for. Most ethnicities have a period in their history where under similar environmental conditions they showed similar tendencies towards violence. jakethebake gave the example of the Irish, Italian and Jewish slums at the turn of the century. Go back 150 years and there was tremendous violence in the back country among Protestant anglo and aryan whites with "rough and tumble" fights that frequently allowed for eye gouging. Until the geneticists isolate a gene I'm going to think root causes rest with the environment.

This is a different issue but I also think there are elements of African American culture that make violence more acceptable and in some ways encourage people to act out violently. I'm thinking here of stuff like emphasizing "getting over" on people, scorning acadmenic success as being fake, respect for power independent of responsibility, a focus on short term satisfaction, etc. Most of these are likely common amongst any group in poverty again pointing to the importance of environment.

regards,

raisins

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It is funny how much sense this statement makes, yet how politically incorrect it is to say in public. Obviously, many of the U.S.'s African Americans are built differently Africans. Like raisin said, they have a MUCH higher natural muscle mass and are simply better atheletes than other races ON AVERAGE. Sure there are many exceptions, but it would be refreshing if people could look at the facts and admit that there ARE differences in races.

p.s. In my High School of about 1000 kids, by far the buffest kid was a black friend of mine. He NEVER worked out. (doesn't prove my point, just interesting)

[ScottyP431]

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It is funny how much sense this statement makes, yet how politically incorrect it is to say in public.

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“You take Los Angeles okay? If I say Los Angeles has become, over the years, a mecca for homosexual migration. I am in the right. But look at what I am saying. I am making it sound like faggots are nomadic if not predatory miscreants who have some implied need to move around. I am also likening them to Muslims, or Muslims to them. Whereas saying LA is filled with faggots is just being honest. It’s not what you say anymore, it’s how you say it.”

[MrFeelNothin]

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Yeah they should have jumped in there. No way he could take them all on if they had any balls. Kicks, to the side of the knee, groin and punches to the chin would lay him out.

At least try to get between them while he's stomping the guy on the ground. "Alright enough man, you beat the guy down. Look at him. Have mercy man."

But I'm a former correctional officer so I'm probably a little less averse to catching an ass beating than most.

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you're forgetting that the gorilla had a mate.

[dblgutshot]

So the guy videotaping is with the dude that got knocked out right?

[MikeNaked]

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Most of these are likely common amongst any group in poverty again pointing to the importance of environment.

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Absolutely. Violence is more an indicator of social class rather than race. Do blacks get in more fights? It could seem so since a higher proportion of blacks are impoverished compared to whites.

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Most of these are likely common amongst any group in poverty again pointing to the importance of environment.

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Absolutely. Violence is more an indicator of social class rather than race. Do blacks get in more fights? It could seem so since a higher proportion of blacks are impoverished compared to whites.

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Okay, so post some videoclips of poor whites suckerpunching noncombative people.

[willie]

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/beatasnitch.html


this makes me sad to be a human being.

[HopeydaFish]

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i'm embarrassed for the human race.

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I find this one more embarrassing.
http://www.muchosucko.com/video-pizzabeating.html
Six or so grown men standing around watching an innocent guy get beat down by a gorilla. I guarantee that [censored] didn't happen in Texas.

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I read somewhere that the guy in the video was caught (due to the video) and ended up going to jail for quite awhile. His girlfriend did as well.

[utmt40]

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Okay, so post some videoclips of poor whites suckerpunching noncombative people.

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[slickpoppa]

I dont have a video, but I saw a white guy break a beer bottle on some guys forehead last week.

[Reef]

so many racists in OOT apparently..

much much more where this came from
link (http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:pxZtrdgbWxMJ:www.alldumb.com/item/11996/+all+dumb+huge+gang+fight&hl=en&client=firefox-a)

[HopeydaFish]

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so many racists in OOT apparently..

much much more where this came from
link (http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:pxZtrdgbWxMJ:www.alldumb.com/item/11996/+all+dumb+huge+gang+fight&hl=en&client=firefox-a)

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Yeah, but they're polish or something...that's barely white.

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so many racists in OOT apparently..

much much more where this came from
link (http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:pxZtrdgbWxMJ:www.alldumb.com/item/11996/+all+dumb+huge+gang+fight&hl=en&client=firefox-a)

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That's not a video of poor whites sucker punching noncombative people. All those people wanted to fight.

[nothumb]

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beat down by a gorilla.

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this is very racist

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This thread sucks

NT

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It is funny how much sense this statement makes, yet how politically incorrect it is to say in public. Obviously, many of the U.S.'s African Americans are built differently Africans. Like raisin said, they have a MUCH higher natural muscle mass and are simply better atheletes than other races ON AVERAGE. Sure there are many exceptions, but it would be refreshing if people could look at the facts and admit that there ARE differences in races.

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Sure, I'll be happy to acknowledge this, as soon as you give some form of data or proof. Otherwise it's just a totally unfounded assertion contributing to the overwhelmingly racist tone of this thread.

[censored] it, I said it.

NT

[HopeydaFish]

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so many racists in OOT apparently..

much much more where this came from
link (http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:pxZtrdgbWxMJ:www.alldumb.com/item/11996/+all+dumb+huge+gang+fight&hl=en&client=firefox-a)

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That's not a video of poor whites sucker punching noncombative people. All those people wanted to fight.

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You mean that you've *never* seen a video where some [censored] white guy picks a fight?

If so, you're obviously new to the internet. Welcome!

Okay. Post one then. Please. Backyard wrestling doesn't count. The white american population is what, about 5x the size of the american black population? It should be fairly easy for you to find about 20 then.

[utmt40]

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Okay. Post one then. Please. Backyard wrestling doesn't count. The white american population is what, about 5x the size of the american black population? It should be fairly easy for you to find about 20 then.

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I just realized how [censored] cool you are. You da man!

[private joker]

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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/beatasnitch.html


this makes me sad to be a human being.

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I agree. This is probably the most disturbing video I've ever seen. It beats that politician in Pennsylvania, it beats the terrorism stuff, etc. It's not just one evil person committing an act of violence. It's an entire mob just unleashing hell on a defenseless woman. Jesus Christ.

[HopeydaFish]

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Okay. Post one then. Please. Backyard wrestling doesn't count. The white american population is what, about 5x the size of the american black population? It should be fairly easy for you to find about 20 then.

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I'll do it tomorrow from work...I don't want to do this on my own time. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I can think of a dozen or so I saw on fugly.com a few months ago. That'll be my first stop.

[HopeydaFish]

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Okay. Post one then. Please. Backyard wrestling doesn't count. The white american population is what, about 5x the size of the american black population? It should be fairly easy for you to find about 20 then.

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Here's one with a white kid picking on another white kid:
White on white violence #1 (http://www.fugly.com/media/MOVIES/OUCH/asshole9283834.wmv)

[HopeydaFish]

White surfers fighting.

More White on White violence (http://www.fugly.com/media/MOVIES/DUMB/surffight1.wmv)

[HopeydaFish]

Fat WHITE guys fighting.

More white on white violence (http://www.fugly.com/media/MOVIES/funny/bathroomfight.wmv)

[HopeydaFish]

White kids fighting.

More white on white violence (http://www.fugly.com/media/view.php?cat=MOVIES&id=215)

[Sephus]

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Word Up Essay!

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lol



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...and I thought "compa" was short for "compadre", but it must be "composition".

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nice one. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I stand corrected by three fights and a junior high bully. Still not nearly as savage as these though:
http://www.muchosucko.com/video-pizzabeating.html
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ghettofight.html
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/beatasnitch.html
http://www.compfused.com/directlink/204/

And since normal fights are game now, check this out:
http://www.spikedhumor.com/Article.aspx?id=736

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And since normal fights are game now, check this out:
http://www.spikedhumor.com/Article.aspx?id=736

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make sure you watch this one until the very end where they show the one dude's eye

[PokerBob]

guys with small dicks crack me up.

[dblgutshot]

The guy who was beating on the PT cruiser was [censored] up. I would have just locked my door and tried to run him over.

[Tron]

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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/beatasnitch.html


this makes me sad to be a human being.

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I agree. This is probably the most disturbing video I've ever seen. It beats that politician in Pennsylvania, it beats the terrorism stuff, etc. It's not just one evil person committing an act of violence. It's an entire mob just unleashing hell on a defenseless woman. Jesus Christ.

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Uhhh... She shouldn't have snitched.

[ChipWrecked]

How about some good prison fight stories, Doc?

[slickpoppa]

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And since normal fights are game now, check this out:
http://www.spikedhumor.com/Article.aspx?id=736

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make sure you watch this one until the very end where they show the one dude's eye

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While we are on the subject, there is a video out there of the guy who won this fight losing another fight to a white guy.

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How about some good prison fight stories, Doc?

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I don't have any good ones. I've seen some videos of some brutal prison violence like the guy that got chased around the dayroom and stabbed about 60 times with a homemade shank until he finally collapsed from blood loss. Then, just to be sure the job was done right, the hitman stabs him about 10 more times so hard, you can hear the shank going through the victims body and hitting the concrete floor. Then he just through aside the shank, laid down on the ground and put his hands behind his back, ready to be cuffed. Throughout the whole ordeal, about 10 CO's just stood outside the dayroom watching it go down, just telling the hitman to cease. The family of the victim sued TDC for stopping the ordeal but the courts apparently ruled that it wasn't the duty of the CO's to protect the inmates from each other.

But I never personally saw any real good fights. I didn't work on a gladiator farm. The funniest thing I ever personally witnessed was this 5'5" sergeant with a napoleonic complex catch a round house to the side of the head from an inmate he was chewing out. Dropped him like a sack of bricks.

[gulebjorn]

Some white guy gets the [censored] kicked out of him for tagging some other white guy's piece of graffiti:

http://www.muchosucko.com/video-beatdown.html

[gulebjorn]

White/Asian guy annihilating (defenseless) Asian bus driver.

http://www.muchosucko.com/video-busbeatdown.html

[gulebjorn]

Buzz Aldrin punching a critic in the face:

http://www.muchosucko.com/video-buzzaldrinpunch.html

[Isura]

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And since normal fights are game now, check this out:
http://www.spikedhumor.com/Article.aspx?id=736

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make sure you watch this one until the very end where they show the one dude's eye

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While we are on the subject, there is a video out there of the guy who won this fight losing another fight to a white guy.

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Link???? I gotta see this.

[gulebjorn]

White hooligans killing a cop (he died of his injuries later):

http://www.muchosucko.com/video-copstomp.html

[silkyslim]

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jeez.

that punch by the fat black guy in the pizza shop is still the most insane though.

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link?

[gulebjorn]

Eddie, some Polish guy, having the worst night of his life:

http://www.muchosucko.com/video-eddie.html

[gulebjorn]

And just for fun:

Don't mess with japanese girls (http://www.muchosucko.com/video-dontfuckwithjapanesegirls.html)

[Isura]

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jeez.

that punch by the fat black guy in the pizza shop is still the most insane though.

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link?

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It's linked in this thread I believe.

[JaBlue]

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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/beatasnitch.html


this makes me sad to be a human being.

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I agree. This is probably the most disturbing video I've ever seen. It beats that politician in Pennsylvania, it beats the terrorism stuff, etc. It's not just one evil person committing an act of violence. It's an entire mob just unleashing hell on a defenseless woman. Jesus Christ.

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This video reminded me of a T-shirt I saw a black guy wearing once that said "white people used to lynch us, now we lynch ourselves"

I thought I got it then, but now... Jesus, that's just [censored] up.

[KaneKungFu123]

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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/beatasnitch.html


this makes me sad to be a human being.

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I agree. This is probably the most disturbing video I've ever seen. It beats that politician in Pennsylvania, it beats the terrorism stuff, etc. It's not just one evil person committing an act of violence. It's an entire mob just unleashing hell on a defenseless woman. Jesus Christ.

[/ QUOTE ]

This video reminded me of a T-shirt I saw a black guy wearing once that said "white people used to lynch us, now we lynch ourselves"

I thought I got it then, but now... Jesus, that's just [censored] up.

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what is the "penn politition"?

[KaneKungFu123]

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And just for fun:

Don't mess with japanese girls (http://www.muchosucko.com/video-dontfuckwithjapanesegirls.html)

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was he trying to abduct her or what? any story there?

[JaBlue]

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what is the "penn politition"?

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I saw this guy in the inner harbor at Baltimore, MD.

I have no idea what you're talking about

[KaneKungFu123]

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what is the "penn politition"?

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I saw this guy in the inner harbor at Baltimore, MD.

I have no idea what you're talking about

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"It beats that politician in Pennsylvania"

[Aytumious]

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what is the "penn politition"?

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Vid of a politician eating his gun on TV. I'm sure someone has the link for it.

[JaBlue]

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what is the "penn politition"?

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I saw this guy in the inner harbor at Baltimore, MD.

I have no idea what you're talking about

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"It beats that politician in Pennsylvania"

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I believe he's referring to a governor that committed suicide on by shooting himself in the face. This was at a press conference and was caught on tape.

[gulebjorn]

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And just for fun:

Don't mess with japanese girls (http://www.muchosucko.com/video-dontfuckwithjapanesegirls.html)

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was he trying to abduct her or what? any story there?

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First, it looks like he's trying to snatch her purse, but she holds on and pulls him back.

Second, I'm pretty sure this isn't real.

[j0ep0ker]

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And since normal fights are game now, check this out:
http://www.spikedhumor.com/Article.aspx?id=736

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make sure you watch this one until the very end where they show the one dude's eye

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While we are on the subject, there is a video out there of the guy who won this fight losing another fight to a white guy.

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Link???? I gotta see this.

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http://www.aseclub.net/member/jon/Movies/kimbowned.wmv

[jakethebake]

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in miami the spanish kids probally fight more then black kids.

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In Miami most of the black kids actually speak Spanish as their first language.

none of the white boys in here look like they can throw a punch. that's just sad.

[Rushmore]

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Yeah the guy that seems to think he owns the 7-11 parking lot seems very ridiulous. Just a bunch of pack mentality simpletons.

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Yeah, but you need to understand, the guy who wouldn't move his ride was disrespecting the alpha male.

That's why he got a beat down.

See, I'm down, yo.

How much are tickets off this f*cking stupid planet, anyway?

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Yeah the guy that seems to think he owns the 7-11 parking lot seems very ridiulous. Just a bunch of pack mentality simpletons.

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Yeah, but you need to understand, the guy who wouldn't move his ride was disrespecting the alpha male.

That's why he got a beat down.

See, I'm down, yo.

How much are tickets off this f*cking stupid planet, anyway?

[/ QUOTE ]

so you're not gona move ur car?

[LetYouDown]

Am I the only one who's surprised there were no weapons drawn in the OP video...either beforehand or afterward?

big difference between assualt and assualt w/ a deadly weapon. they're stupid but not that stupid.

[KaneKungFu123]

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in miami the spanish kids probally fight more then black kids.

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In Miami most of the black kids actually speak Spanish as their first language.

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ok...

african american

vs

spanish

please dont agrue that hatians are african.

[jakethebake]

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in miami the spanish kids probally fight more then black kids.

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In Miami most of the black kids actually speak Spanish as their first language.

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ok...

african american

vs

spanish

please dont agrue that hatians are african.

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I'm just saying the majority of the black people here are Hispanic. They're mostly Cuban or Dominican or Haitian. Then there are also the Bahamians, Jamaicans, etc. that don't speak Spanish, but some funny form of English. I've lived here a little over a year, and don't remember even meeting an "African American" that was hispanic or an islander. Nevermind. I'm just being a nit.

[Rushmore]

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so you're not gona move ur car?

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I might not want to, but I'm moving the car on the first request.

Then, I'm thinking hard about moving myself to another neighborhood, or country or something.

We all have the misfortune of living in an era when many people are not yet fully, uh, well...formed.

I don't give a sh*t how that sounds.

[Hamish McBagpipe]

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http://www.aseclub.net/member/jon/Movies/kimbowned.wmv

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This is the same Kimbo guy from the earlier clip of two dudes fighting in the backyard. [censored] amazing fight.

[ethan]

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http://www.aseclub.net/member/jon/Movies/kimbowned.wmv

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That's sorta f'ed up.

[Hamish McBagpipe]

I liked it. You can see them get tired by the second. Number of solid punches landed: 9 Number of times they had to hitch up their pants: 14. I'm not sure if the clownshoe wearing the dunce party hat was out of line trying to break it up when it went to chokeholds and knees. The regulating body of the underground bareknuckle freeforall boxing league was unavailable for comment.

[HopeydaFish]

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big difference between assualt and assualt w/ a deadly weapon. they're stupid but not that stupid.

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Naw, the only reason you don't see any weapons is because they wanted to beat her to death, and a weapon would have hastened the process too much.

Besides, stomping on someone's head can be considered "Assault with a deadly weapon". Legally, a shoe can be considered a deadly weapon if it is being used in trying to kill someone -- such as stomping on someone's head.

are you even talking about the OP's original video?

[HopeydaFish]

No, the topic has moved on. Please try to keep up. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

We're talking about the video of the "snitch" getting hauled out of her car and stomped on.

[Luzion]

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And just for fun:

Don't mess with japanese girls (http://www.muchosucko.com/video-dontfuckwithjapanesegirls.html)

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was he trying to abduct her or what? any story there?

[/ QUOTE ]

First, it looks like he's trying to snatch her purse, but she holds on and pulls him back.

Second, I'm pretty sure this isn't real.

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Thats a commercial. Ive seen the full version before on Ebaumsworld I believe, but in this one they cut off the ending so you can't tell. I bet it was a male actor that did that suplex.




Ok, I found the full version but its in Flash.

http://gprime.net/flash.php/atomicsuplex

[Blarg]

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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/beatasnitch.html


this makes me sad to be a human being.

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I agree. This is probably the most disturbing video I've ever seen. It beats that politician in Pennsylvania, it beats the terrorism stuff, etc. It's not just one evil person committing an act of violence. It's an entire mob just unleashing hell on a defenseless woman. Jesus Christ.

[/ QUOTE ]


Uhhh... She shouldn't have snitched.

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Shouldn't, in what way? To perserve herself, sure. But some people are sick of criminals ruining the lives of everyone around them. Most of snitching isn't really selling out people you like or know or trust, but people who may not even know you or give a damn about you, and may actively be hurting you every day. The little kid who tells on a bully, for instance.

Hard to say if she should have snitched in a moral sense, with no knowledge of the circumstances. It's clear that she shouldn't have gone into the middle of a bunch of psychotic criminals afterward.

[LetYouDown]

What's the scenario? What/who did she "snitch" on? I can't download the video cause I'm at work.

[HopeydaFish]

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What's the scenario? What/who did she "snitch" on? I can't download the video cause I'm at work.

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She snitched on some gang members, apparently.

The video is her sitting in the backseat of a car in a parking lot. There's a huge mob around the car. They start smashing up the car to get at her, but she won't get out. Finally, the owner of the car goes over to the car and unlocks the doors, presumably to keep his car from getting damaged further. By this point, the mob had smashed out the back window and were punching at her through the opening. Some people push at her from behind as others pull at her from the other side. Finally she tumbles from the car, at which point the mob starts stomping on her. The video cuts out after about 2 or 3 minutes of her getting stomped on.

I doubt very much she survived. It's a scene of humanity at its worst.

IIRC, she's an 'alleged snitch'.

[Blarg]

The filming of this sh*t is usually just as sick as the participating in it. Trophies of sickness and idiocy.

[LetYouDown]

That's messed up. Am I the only one left on this planet that would get physically ill if I were to witness that in person? I find it unsettling to watch any kind of video like that. Same goes with videos of people getting injured or any other kind of painful experience. Maybe I've just been sheltered for the first 24 years of my life, but I really don't get any pleasure out of watching it. I understand that for some people it's like a car accident that they can't stop looking at, but I would never seek crap like that out.

[Reef]

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White/Asian guy annihilating (defenseless) Asian bus driver.

http://www.muchosucko.com/video-busbeatdown.html

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wow, thx for doing all the pwning necessary

[Blarg]

It's a sick society getting sicker.

Kind of sad that it can seem almost abnormal not to totally groove on depravity, but lots of people take pride in how sick they can get and how sick they like it.

Somehow that pulled up an image that an Iranian friend communicated to me long ago. He said that the law had brutally harsh reprisals for crimes committed there, but anyone, even a woman, could walk anywhere at any time of day and not be worried about getting robbed, raped, or beaten. He said he felt much safer in the worst neighborhoods there than in the best ones here.

He also said that if someone fell down in the street and needed help, everyone would help, every time. Here, if anything happens, you're alone. I've heard from a few others too about experiments in different countries on the reactions of strangers in the streets to someone who fell and needed a bit of help was worse in America than anywhere else; people virtually never help each other out or exhibit much courtesy here.

I wish people wouldn't be trying to be gangsta idiots and adopting the worst aspects of human nature as if it were a fashion statement or more authentic way of being or something, especially when we can't wait to demonize all our supposed enemies and try to compare ourselves positively to them. We have picked and popularized the worst role models possible at a time when we're already rocketing downhill. Our society needs a hell of a lot of work, and it starts with the jackass next door or, extremely likely, in your own house.

[HopeydaFish]

Yeah, I agree. I don't really go looking for stuff like that either, and I get no pleasure out of watching it (well, unless it's some jerk who tries to start a fight and then ends up getting what he deserves). However, as you said, it's like a car wreck...when someone posts a link to such a thing on here, I'm too curious not to click on the link to see it for myself.

[slickpoppa]

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Yeah, I agree. I don't really go looking for stuff like that either, and I get no pleasure out of watching it (well, unless it's some jerk who tries to start a fight and then ends up getting what he deserves). However, as you said, it's like a car wreck...when someone posts a link to such a thing on here, I'm too curious not to click on the link to see it for myself.

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I didn't get any pleasure out of it either, but I think it is good to watch stuff like that to remind myself of how much of a sheltered life I live.

[LetYouDown]

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Yeah, I agree. I don't really go looking for stuff like that either, and I get no pleasure out of watching it (well, unless it's some jerk who tries to start a fight and then ends up getting what he deserves). However, as you said, it's like a car wreck...when someone posts a link to such a thing on here, I'm too curious not to click on the link to see it for myself.

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I see what you're saying and I can follow that line of thinking. That's why I watched the OP's video. That wasn't really bad, although it was somewhat unsettling when he just kept punching him in the head. Don't get me wrong, I've been in a few scraps here and there with people I despised, but I could *never* kick someone in the face, or just pound them after they were down, unless they did something absolutely atrocious.

Even in films, it unsettles me. I loved Fight Club but mostly because of the overall thought process, not because of the fight scenes. Same with American History X, at least there's some artistic value there and there's a point. I've just never been into anything like UFC fights. Went to my friend's house the other day to play a game (yeah, poker content...sue me) and they had a UFC fight on. I wouldn't even watch it...it just does absolutely nothing for me.

My college roommate was really into this foreign wrestling crap that was quite obviously real. Guys would box with non-lethal weapons in the ring and there would be some bledshed that simply wasn't faked. I found this to be a really strange fascination. Aside from that, he was a nice guy that I never had any problems with. Just really really strange.

[sublime]

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i think jake spelled it out.

black people = poor = bad enviroment = higher capacity for violence and viscousness.

blacks are better athletes because of their muscle fiber type i believe (fast twitch) i think.

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i don't know about the muscle twitch thing, but i can say from experiance that 'blacks' are more violent (in genral) than whites because of the environment they come from.

i came from one of the whitest (sp?) inner city communities in America (south boston) and the level of violence would astound most people. by the time i was 13 i had been in at least 5-10 fistfights and just assumed that was normal, because everyone else did it.

basically, i see that as evidence that it doesn't matter what color you are, or in other words there is no genetic predisposition. if you see lots of violence, you will then act that way and assume its just he way life is.

[raisins]

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The filming of this sh*t is usually just as sick as the participating in it. Trophies of sickness and idiocy.

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I agree. The desire to keep one of the worst moments of a person's life on permanent spectacle shows the camera man to be about as ugly of a person as the perpetrators. Furthermore, many times the perpetrators are fuelled by the notion that they are appearing as a hero, or at least worthy of admiration in someone's eyes. A world view where someone is validated by another's defeat. Anyway, before I get too self righteous, yeah, I watch.

I'm sure some of you have seen Man Bites Dog, good movie; all about this.

regards,

raisins

P.S. Does anyone recognizze the case where the woman is dragged out? Background story? Does she survive?

[LetYouDown]

Still haven't seen the video, but found this:

http://xrlq.com/2005/08/22/oakland-justice/

Unfortunately the link to the Bay Area website fails.

Also, this:

http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=3768028
Pretty sure it happened in Oakland based on these.

[DavidC]

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White/Asian guy annihilating (defenseless) Asian bus driver.

http://www.muchosucko.com/video-busbeatdown.html

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I don't understand, can't the driver leave the bus? How is he, therefore, defenseless?

[Pirc Defense]

I've seen most of those videos before but after seeing them again, I feel absolutely sick. All I know is, as a pasty white guy, I wouldn't last a night in the 'hood. Don't care to, of course.

It helps to hear from others who agree that beating a defenseless opponent is one of the most cowardly, wrong things you can possibly do. Sucker punches from behind aren't much better, either.

But who's to say we wouldn't act the same way if were living in the 'hood with no apparent way out? That's a whole boatload of repressed (so to speak) anger at the "man," with no real target.

As we saw with New Orleans, just under the surface, in ways we don't fully understand and certainly don't want to talk about, something is brewing. There'll be a revolution, and it's just a question of when.

Tip: don't be rich and white when it happens.

[Blarg]

He looks like an older and slighter man compared to the guy who was beating on him, who looks pretty young and vigorous and solidly built. The old guy probably had to be in the bus for his job and felt he couldn't leave, or else just figured that trying to leave would just enrage the jerk more.

That's one of the sadder things about confrontations like these. So often people feel that if they can weather just a little more trauma and humiliation, the creep will go away. Actually, once the creep sees you will take it, he often feels safer and even more hyped up to make it even worse. People in a bad situation just sit around getting beaten worse and worse until even if they wanted to fight back, they're way too fuked up to fight back anymore. A downward spiral can reach a certain point in a single punch that there's no coming back from.

[Aytumious]

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That's messed up. Am I the only one left on this planet that would get physically ill if I were to witness that in person? I find it unsettling to watch any kind of video like that. Same goes with videos of people getting injured or any other kind of painful experience. Maybe I've just been sheltered for the first 24 years of my life, but I really don't get any pleasure out of watching it. I understand that for some people it's like a car accident that they can't stop looking at, but I would never seek crap like that out.

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I'd probably get sick then open fire with my assualt rifle.

[Blarg]

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I've seen most of those videos before but after seeing them again, I feel absolutely sick. All I know is, as a pasty white guy, I wouldn't last a night in the 'hood. Don't care to, of course.

It helps to hear from others who agree that beating a defenseless opponent is one of the most cowardly, wrong things you can possibly do. Sucker punches from behind aren't much better, either.

But who's to say we wouldn't act the same way if were living in the 'hood with no apparent way out? That's a whole boatload of repressed (so to speak) anger at the "man," with no real target.

As we saw with New Orleans, just under the surface, in ways we don't fully understand and certainly don't want to talk about, something is brewing. There'll be a revolution, and it's just a question of when.

Tip: don't be rich and white when it happens.

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Hate is extremely unchoosy when it comes to targets. Poor people mad at rich people express it by beating the crap out of other poor people all the time. You don't have to be as rich as the upper class to be hated, just the same color.

[Blarg]

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The filming of this sh*t is usually just as sick as the participating in it. Trophies of sickness and idiocy.

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I agree. The desire to keep one of the worst moments of a person's life on permanent spectacle shows the camera man to be about as ugly of a person as the perpetrators. Furthermore, many times the perpetrators are fuelled by the notion that they are appearing as a hero, or at least worthy of admiration in someone's eyes. A world view where someone is validated by another's defeat. Anyway, before I get too self righteous, yeah, I watch.

I'm sure some of you have seen Man Bites Dog, good movie; all about this.

regards,

raisins

P.S. Does anyone recognizze the case where the woman is dragged out? Background story? Does she survive?

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The camera definitely inspires further violence.

A sick onscreen example is that graffiti kid. After his first sucker punching and beating, the cameraman follows him further. Instead of the whole thing fading into a sick memory, he instigates Act II. His pursuing camera while the guy is alone and no one is coming after him practically begs someone to come attack him to continue the "action."

Bullies and sick fuks are everywhere, but you'd think you'd see so many more of them actually fighting fair, since they're so damn tough and righteous. But hell no, it's almost always someone way smaller or a sucker punch.

That stupid ass who kicked the younger boy in the balls just for jollies and then laughed about it -- "It's funny because he's writing in pain" is a good example of that. Real cool to kick little kids in the balls. Fuk, I'd want to hang myself if I pulled that kind of crap. I couldn't even show my face.

[KaneKungFu123]

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even a woman, could walk anywhere at any time of day and not be worried about getting robbed, raped, or beaten. He said he felt much safer in the worst neighborhoods there than in the best ones here.


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this is very surprising. you sure he was from iran?

[Blarg]

Yup. He was a Persian named Medhi, my roommate at the time.

[KaneKungFu123]

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i think jake spelled it out.

black people = poor = bad enviroment = higher capacity for violence and viscousness.

blacks are better athletes because of their muscle fiber type i believe (fast twitch) i think.

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i don't know about the muscle twitch thing



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"There are in fact two different types of fast-twitch fibers, one more metabolically efficient. Whites on average have a higher percentage of slow-twitch fibers than West African blacks who generally have more of both types of fast-twitch fibers."

http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?p=blacks+jumping+fast+twitch+jumping&ei=UTF-8&fl=0&u=run-down.com/guests/je_black_athletes_p2.php&w=blacks+jumping+fast+twi tch+jumping&d=XIOJEGFULc4z&icp=1&.intl=us

[Dave Mac]

i have one word for you: GUN, that is all.

[krazyace5]

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The guy who was beating on the PT cruiser was [censored] up. I would have just locked my door and tried to run him over.

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Thats what i was thinkng, slam it in reverse and run his ass over.

[krazyace5]

Looks like the girl dragged from the car miraculously survived.

http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=3768028

Also check this one out. Whats the deal here? Backyard wrestling?

http://www.alldumb.com/item/15852/

Cat fight (http://www.alldumb.com/item/15660/)

dad in office (http://www.alldumb.com/item/15263/)

[Taraz]

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i think jake spelled it out.

black people = poor = bad enviroment = higher capacity for violence and viscousness.

blacks are better athletes because of their muscle fiber type i believe (fast twitch) i think.

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i don't know about the muscle twitch thing



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"There are in fact two different types of fast-twitch fibers, one more metabolically efficient. Whites on average have a higher percentage of slow-twitch fibers than West African blacks who generally have more of both types of fast-twitch fibers."

http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?p=blacks+jumping+fast+twitch+jumping&ei=UTF-8&fl=0&u=run-down.com/guests/je_black_athletes_p2.php&w=blacks+jumping+fast+twi tch+jumping&d=XIOJEGFULc4z&icp=1&.intl=us

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I don't know if you read this guy's book, but his arguments are soooooo flawed. Basically he tests East Africans and says, "look they are sweet at distance running". Then he takes black Americans (West African ancestry) and says, "look they are awesome at sprinting". "Therefore black people are genetically more athletic." Somehow they are the same "black guy".

Meanwhile he completely ignores the fact that West Africans don't win anything even though they should have the most "pure" genes for sprinting and fast twitch muscle fibers. Same goes for the fact that according to him, "black people jump the best" but they don't dominate the high jump, long jump, triple jump, etc.

He also confuses race with genetics. Our classification of race has very little genetic basis, it's pretty much all socially constructed.

Basically, socio-economic arguments are much, much more powerful and persuasive than genetic arguments when you talk about black athletes (and black criminals/thugs/etc).

(Sorry for the long post, but I bought that book thinking I would learn something interesting. Instead I found terrible analysis and lots of hand waving. Now it just bothers me when I see people using it as evidence for random claims.)

[JRussell]

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That was probably staged. The guy who came out of the car definitely wasn't hitting very hard after he put the other guy down. You can tell he's pulling his punches. If a guy took ten full-strength bare-knuckle punches with no defense and his head on a concrete sidewalk, he'd be a bloody mess.

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Staged...lol.

If you look (and listen) closely he nailed him at least the first 2 punches after he was down. He only started pulling his punches back after the third or fourth one hit the concrete when he missed. Hitting concrete hurts.

[JRussell]

For some reason the links only work in Internet Explorer. They won't seem to open in Firefox.

A classic fight between a couple of (white) snowboarders. The big guy just wouldn't leave the other guy alone and really got what was coming to him. Snowboarder Fight (http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00369.wmv)

Another classic between a (white) wannabe gangster and a (white) wannabe Kung Fu master. Gangster vs. Kung Fu (http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00629.wmv)


...And this video proves there are white people of all cultures and ages fighting all over, not just in the US. French Guys Fight (http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00669.wmv )

[jba]

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...And this video proves there are white people of all cultures and ages fighting all over, not just in the US. French Guys Fight


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best video so far

[speirs]

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Another classic between a (white) wannabe gangster and a (white) wannabe Kung Fu master. Gangster vs. Kung Fu (http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00629.wmv)

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This is great lol

[Blarg]

Those old French dudes fighting was very funny.

It's always nice to see the aggressor make a fool of himself, too. That guy had no business thinking he could fight.

[ackid]

That 1st. beating did look fake. The 1st. punch seemed glancing at best. He didnt miss about 5 other punches while on the ground and kick to the face he completely missed.

Ive seen beatings way worst than this in front of the Pipeline in Newark.

[Sakuraba]

Did you see the swing and miss backhand at the end of the old French guys video? That is great stuff.

[Blarg]

The fat aggressor in the French guys video didn't even look like he got knocked down or punched down. He just sprawled from his own super clumsiness and the other guy got out of the way.

Meanwhile, he didn't connect once. This guy seriously needs to wise up before some teenage girl beats the living crap out of him or something.

[-Skeme-]

The Buzz Aldrin video is the best. I can't remember the name of the prick he punched, but he definitely had it coming. One of those morans who claim the moon landing was a hoax. He'd follow Buzz around and pretend he was a reporter to talk with him, then when they'd meet up, he'd call Buzz a traitor and a liar, etc.

He tried getting Buzz arrested for punching him. The cops laughed at him and told him to leave Buzz alone. They also called Buzz a national hero.

[Sakuraba]

That whole video is great. The smaller guy might have landed a "left hook" though to knock the fat guy down. I have seen this before and always thought the fat guy just fell, but upon further review, a punch may have been thrown. (maybe more of a push)

It may be a coincidence and the fat guy just fell at the same time.

[Blarg]

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The Buzz Aldrin video is the best. I can't remember the name of the prick he punched, but he definitely had it coming. One of those morans who claim the moon landing was a hoax. He'd follow Buzz around and pretend he was a reporter to talk with him, then when they'd meet up, he'd call Buzz a traitor and a liar, etc.

He tried getting Buzz arrested for punching him. The cops laughed at him and told him to leave Buzz alone. They also called Buzz a national hero.

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Buzz was a national hero, but still an arsehole. I guess the guilty pleasure of whacking someone can seem pretty irresistible sometimes. But Buzz should have had his ass hauled to jail for that shyte. If you or I would have done it, we would have been dealth with according to poor people law, not rich celebrity law.

[Blarg]

First I thought he punched him down, but then it looked more like the fat guy's balance just spontaneously combusted. I think the skinny guy, if he hit him at all, didn't hit him anywhere near hard enough to knock him down. And I kind of don't think he did hit him, even though he started to swing.

Doesn't matter anyway; this was some funny stuff and that fat old dude was a total stooge either way. It's pathetic enough when young people act like idiots, but you almost expect it. When old people are total arseholes acting like little punk kids, it's practically a tragedy. But also funny.