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Dommer
09-20-2005, 01:31 AM
No real reads on the villain, only have 62 hands on him. Is my check reraise on the flop ok? I wanted to define his hand as overcards and get heads up against hte short stack, hoping the short stack had a flush draw or some other pair. The original PFR insta min raised me though which smelled funny but I didn't know what to make of it so I folded. Would it have been better to call the flop? Lead?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG ($103.15)
UTG+1 ($100)
UTG+2 ($196.15)
MP1 ($99)
MP2 ($50.63)
MP3 ($155.90)
CO ($46)
Button ($97.25)
SB ($98.90)
Hero ($184.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $3, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($9.50) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $5</font>, MP2 calls $5, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $35</font>, MP2 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $69.50
PoBoy321
09-20-2005, 01:35 AM
Lead the flop, fold to a raise. It's a much cheaper way of finding out that you're beat.
dibbs
09-20-2005, 01:40 AM
I suck with JJ but I lead the flop, you invest less in finding out where youre at.

On a side note, What's your action if you lead, he calls and the turn is a blank?
Dommer
09-20-2005, 01:43 AM
Yah I think leading is better, I was hoping to snap off a continuation bet but its probably more profitable to find out where you are at. If I get called its c/f to any reasonable bet time.
PoBoy321
09-20-2005, 01:44 AM
I don't mind snapping off continuation bets with a c/r, but I prefer doing it with a draw than what I think is likely the best hand.

Do you see why?
amoeba
09-20-2005, 02:10 AM
this move is not too bad.

lead, fold to raise is better if you are fairly certain they won't raise with any hands that you beat.
Dommer
09-20-2005, 03:20 AM
Because I want to show down my best hand not get them to fold or push me off, while I want them to fold with my draw and/or disguise my hand. ?