$215 - are you shoving this?

[octaveshift]

SB and BB are both tight callers, with BB the tightest player at the table. Up to this point, I have only made 2 moves: a push with AK that wasn't called, and a push into the BB with pocket fours, which was called, and doubled me up.

Let's see, what else... Fraggo is an absolute maniac, and I would be afraid to push anything less than premium hands into him.

The writing appears to be on the wall here. I think I have to push this, yes?


***** Hand History for Game 2735826672 *****
100/200 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 15862378) - Sun Sep 18 21:27:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 15614 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: meehady (1215)
Seat 2: IHateBaller (3160)
Seat 5: fragoso11 (2645)
Seat 8: xyrophobic (905)
Seat 10: eddy81 (2075)
eddy81 posts small blind (50)
meehady posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xyrophobic [ 5c, 8s ]
IHateBaller folds.
fragoso11 folds.
xyrophobic ???

[illegit]

Given your descriptions of the blinds, yeah definitely push.

[Karak567]

Are you playing 215s without eastbay's tool?

[octaveshift]

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Are you playing 215s without eastbay's tool?

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Are you kidding? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I know what SGA says, but I am curious what you all think...

[the_joker]

I don't start pushing trash from the button until I'm more desparate than 9BB, even into tight players. Maybe this is wrong.

[schwza]

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Are you playing 215s without eastbay's tool?

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still need ranges.

i'd be inclined to fold here.

[octaveshift]

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Are you playing 215s without eastbay's tool?

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i'd be inclined to fold here.

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Wow, OK. Can we talk about this a bit?

My initial instinct was to push. Are you *not* pushing here because the hand is so dismal, and this is such an obvious place for me to be pushing that the villains should open their calling ranges considerably?

Edit: The blinds are going to 200 on the next hand, leaving me with only 4.5x.

I think I am approaching a wall at high-velocity in this spot.

[schwza]

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Are you playing 215s without eastbay's tool?

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i'd be inclined to fold here.

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Wow, OK. Can we talk about this a bit?

My initial instinct was to push. Are you *not* pushing here because the hand is so dismal, and this is such an obvious place for me to be pushing that the villains should open their calling ranges considerably?

Remember, blinds are going to 300 on the next hand, leaving me with only 3x. *gulp*

I think I am approaching a wall at high-velocity in this spot.

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huh? it's 50/100 now, and there was no mention of increasing blinds.

[octaveshift]

Damn it, I'm sorry. I am posting from work, and I always have to make these posts quickly in a very small window.

1. I had included that the blinds were going up on the next hand, but I edited it out when writing, and forgot to put it back in.

2. The stupid HH always screws me up. I look at the top 100/200 and forget that it's not right.

So, again, sorry, the blinds are going up to 200 on the next hand.

[schwza]

you mean 75/150?

[bigt439]

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Damn it, I'm sorry. I am posting from work, and I always have to make these posts quickly in a very small window.

1. I had included that the blinds were going up on the next hand, but I edited it out when writing, and forgot to put it back in.

2. The stupid HH always screws me up. I look at the top 100/200 and forget that it's not right.

So, again, sorry, the blinds are going up to 200 on the next hand.

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Ha, this is really going to piss you off, but you forgot about 75/150.

[octaveshift]

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you mean 75/150?

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OMG

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[schwza]

haha. fair enough.

i'm still folding though. you'll have 4.5x if you fold your blinds. steal next orbit, don't risk 9x to win 1.5x.

[Apathy]

If folding this is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

[ilya]

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you mean 75/150?

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OMG

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Wait, are you saying that it doesn't matter that much whether the blinds are going up to 75/150 or 100/200? Cos that'd be a pretty ridiculous thing to say.

[ilya]

Well in the $20s the very idea of pushing this is kinda laughable. I'm gonna go out on a limb and speculate that this is a fold in the $200s also.

[octaveshift]

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haha. fair enough.

i'm still folding though. you'll have 4.5x if you fold your blinds. steal next orbit, don't risk 9x to win 1.5x.

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The beauty of this image is that I had actually hotlinked to an animated gif of a smiley punching himself in the balls.

They must be pissed, because they swapped it out.

Somehow, the "anal lube" works too, so, the joke is on them.

0wn3d!

[octaveshift]

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you mean 75/150?

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OMG

http://bushwhacked.net/forum/images/smilies/punchballs.gif

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Wait, are you saying that it doesn't matter that much whether the blinds are going up to 75/150 or 100/200? Cos that'd be a pretty ridiculous thing to say.

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No, I meant it as "I am a total moron."

Well, the good news is that I actually folded here, even though SGA says it's a push if the villain's calling ranges are average / tight.

I initially *wanted* to push, but I was thankfully pulled back from the edge before doing so.

At the end of the tourney, I put the whole tourney through SGA and saw that it was a push. I was curious who here would shove, and who folds instead.

It looks like everyone is advocating a fold, so I feel a little better that I let this one go.

[schwza]

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Well, the good news is that I actually folded here, even though SGA says it's a push if the villain's calling ranges are average / tight.

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what ranges are those?

[octaveshift]

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Well, the good news is that I actually folded here, even though SGA says it's a push if the villain's calling ranges are average / tight.

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what ranges are those?

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With both on average (66+, ATs+, AJo+) it's +.4%

With BB on tight (TT+, AQ+, AKo) and SB on average, it's +.7%

[skipperbob]

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I initially *wanted* to push, but I was thankfully pulled back from the edge before doing so

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"Why don't you just TELL me what movie you want to see"

[bluefeet]

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I initially *wanted* to push, but I was thankfully pulled back from the edge before doing so

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"Why don't you just TELL me what movie you want to see"

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"You've selected -- Brown Eye Girl. If this is correct press one." /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Uppercut]

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I don't start pushing trash from the button until I'm more desparate than 9BB, even into tight players. Maybe this is wrong.

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What he said, minus the "maybe this is wrong".

[octaveshift]

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I initially *wanted* to push, but I was thankfully pulled back from the edge before doing so

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"Why don't you just TELL me what movie you want to see"

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Hahahah. VNH.