10/20 6 max, value bet with UI AK? (on coordinated board.)

[brick]

BB is 37/21/2.2 and haven't seen him get too out of line.
UTG is 40/9/.5 and he calls too much.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A /images/graemlins/spade.gif, K /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero caps, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 4 /images/graemlins/club.gif, 6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3 /images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 5 /images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG folds.

River: (9.75 BB) 9 /images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ... ?

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

[bank]

I check this turn.

Given you bet turn and bb check called, bet river for value. BB looks like a thinking player and would have check raised any pair on the flop to get it heads up. AQ AJ AT and maybe even KQ are calling this river.

[whodaman]

hmmm....
i would.
Most pairs he is putting in a raise somewhere. so unless he 3 bet you light, you should be good.

[MrBig30]

Hero checks. Maybe you could get AQ or AJ to pay you off but would he not have raised those preflop? If you bet and he calls i´d say you are behind way more than 50%.

Edit: Disregard my reply I mixed up UTG and BB....

[NLSoldier]

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Hero checks. Maybe you could get AQ or AJ to pay you off but would he not have raised those preflop? If you bet and he calls i´d say you are behind way more than 50%.

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bb 3bet pf....

[yanicehand]

Confusing, but given the board I really can't see him c/cing every street with an overpair, and it's not like he has an underpair here. I bet and think I'm chopping and winning much more than I'm losing.

[brick]

I checked, and villan had AQ.

[PokerBob]

why did you bet the turn?

[brick]

why should I not bet the turn?

[brick]

I guess I should try to answer this.
I could check and auto call the river but then I'm giving a free card and letting them decide when to bet into me on the river. If they check the river, I'm not going to feel comfortable betting... so they get the best of me on the river when I check the turn.

When I bet the turn because I'm playing cat and mouse with them. I figure usually they will be scared to raise me with absolute nothing. So most the time if they raise I will be drawing dead, or to 4 outs, or 6 outs. I'm ahead only when they have a lone big heart. I didn't run the numbers but it seems I can fold to a raise.

I like a check better when the board cards are a little higher or when I have a heart.

Now, it's your turn /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[PokerBob]

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why should I not bet the turn?

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just about every reasonable draw came in. i guess i'd just give up here.

[wheelz]

they both just check-called the flop in a huge pot, i don't know why you're worried about draws coming in. betting was capped preflop, it's not like someone is likely to have a 7 or lower in their hand.

[PokerBob]

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they both just check-called the flop in a huge pot, i don't know why you're worried about draws coming in. betting was capped preflop, it's not like someone is likely to have a 7 or lower in their hand.

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utg is a retard who open limped. also, wouldn't a draw check/call on this board?

[wheelz]

a draw might check-call, but so would overcards. i realize utg is capable of having a card below 7, but it's not something i'd expect.

i feel comfortable folding to a turn raise, so i'd rather bet than give a lone heart a free card.

[PokerBob]

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i feel comfortable folding to a turn raise, so i'd rather bet than give a lone heart a free card.

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ok. i can live with that.

[brick]

I think I probably bet the turn too much but bear with me a bit. They don't need anything to call my flop bet. JQ, K9, AQ, JT. Why give all these hands a free draw and let them outplay me on the river, when I could bet and play it correctly when they have me beat?

[PokerBob]

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I think I probably bet the turn too much but bear with me a bit. They don't need anything to call my flop bet. JQ, K9, AQ, JT. Why give all these hands a free draw and let them outplay me on the river, when I could bet and play it correctly when they have me beat?

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i'm sure you are right. i am a losing player. i guess if you are gonna put another bet into this pot, it's better on the turn than on the river.

[brick]

sorry, just trying to justify all my bad turn bets. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
but at least I'm thiking this one through for future reference!

[wheelz]

i think you should bet the river too btw. bb is aggro, he's definitely not check/calling down with an overpair.

i guess it's a bet against an unknown too though...