First 2/4 10k stat check

[Delzek15]

This is my first 10k hands of 2/4 at party, so if you see any major leaks let me know. I'm pretty confident that I can beat 2/4 consistantly with a winrate somewhere close to this. Also do you think I could move up to 3/6 with only 10k hands at 2/4 if I already have the bankroll for it? Or should I stick it out at 2/4 for another 10-20k hands to see where I'm really at???

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[meep_42]

Looks good, i'd stick out another 5k-10k+ hands at 2/4 to get a better sample, but your numbers are fine. You can look for a couple more spots to limp pf with more marginal hands.

-d

[Delzek15]

Also... Is my PFR% a good number? Is that high enough? Does it need to be higher?

[thesharpie]

Your PFR is fine although you could get it a point or two higher. Maybe fold BB to steal a tad less.

I also have a similar wtsd% as you but I have a higher w$sd and w%wsf, I don't know whether it's due to a small sample or whether I'm just folding too much, or whether I'm just picking better spots to fold/calldown. My ftrb is also very similar.

[shant]

From looking at these stats I can definitively tell you one thing, you know how to make a huge fcikin jpeg.

[Delzek15]

Just gotta make sure everyone can clearly read my stats to give me USEFUL information. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[mdrudeen]

Well I'm no expert but the thing that jumped out at me was the low % of completing from the small blind. Seems like you could loosen up here a bit.

Then again your bb/100 is bigger then mine.

Tell you right now don't care what your stats are at 2/4, 3/6 is a different game. Just go to party or where ever and sit through a couple of sessions. I do not understand why and i'm still trying to figure it out, but in 3/6 you have a lot more aggressive players and a lot more showdowns, making the game looser and harder to bluff. If you have the roll go give it a try, but don't be suprised if you find its just a different game than 2/4. Personally I am just going to keep tearing up the 2/4 game until i have the roll to play 5/10.

[Delzek15]

Yeah... I guess I am a little tight from the SB. If its not 7 or 8 to 1 or better I'm not calling with any really shitty cards. I normally always call with A/x but that is even a tough spot for me because when I flop an Ace I sometimes have trouble playing deciding whether to lead out or C/R the flop.

[Delzek15]

Hmm.... Do you think 3/6 is harder than 5/10??? What is your reasoning behind skipping 3/6?

[shant]

You are going to need the skills you learn at 3/6 and at a 6-max game to beat higher levels like 5/10 and up.

[Delzek15]

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You are going to need the skills you learn at 3/6 and at a 6-max game to beat higher levels like 5/10 and up.

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This is what I always thought which is the reason I was surprised when he said he was going to skip 3/6. I just would like to know the reasoning behind it.

What are the skills you need to learn at 3/6 6-max?

[shant]

I said 3-6 or 6-max. Some of the skills are playing more aggressively with more marginal holdings, and playing short-handed because there are a lot of 3-handed and heads-up pots as you move up. Also, blind stealing and blind defense situations.

[livinitup0]

Am I the only one that thinks this VPIP is quite low?
If you cant double your VPIP immediately then dont play 6-max. The usual range for 6-max is high 20's low 30's range, with hella aggression. Its been a while since I played full ring but I remember my VPIP being at about 21-22ish. and around 2.3BB/100 I dont think you're limping enough in passive games, and if you arent playing many in the 30%-40%WTF range then you need to pick better tables. For 6-max you'd be amazed at the 60-70% range you can find at 2/4 and 3/6.

[TheHammer24]

I'm through my first 7,700, and I think I'll post my stats to see if anyone would like to comment. I, too, am considering the move to 3/6.

VP$IP 16.78%
VP$IP From SB 30%

Folded SB To Steal 84.62
Folded BB to Steal 65.28%

Att to Steal Blinds 26.48%

Won Money when Saw Flop 40.53%
Amount won $1,067
BB/100 3.46

Went to showdown 40.52%
Won $ at Showdown 54.73%

Raised Preflop 10.10%
Limp/Reraise 0/7716 times /images/graemlins/wink.gif


AF 2.51
Flop 2.70
Turn 2.69
River 1.90 --- is it common to have river lower? I find I bet pfr, bet, bet, check quite often.



Sorry about the post hijack. I just typed htis out and I'm going to submit it.

[whodaman]

before moving up i would start to add more hands. Your VPIP shows that you are folding hands pf that would increase your BB/100 at the 2/4 level

[Dagger78]

My agression numbers are very close to yours. Yes the river is lower than the rest.

[BluEsiNsOuL]

Is it correct to say that 1/2 max is more profitable than 2/4 full?

[TheHammer24]

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Is it correct to say that 1/2 max is more profitable than 2/4 full?

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For me .10/.20 is more profitable than 15/30, but 2/4 is much more profitable than 1/2 6 Max

Do you see why?

[heropretend]

my experience is move up when you are comfortable with amount of money you are playing with. when that swing hits 75bb or so, it happens quickly and affects your confidence. also, i think the jump from 2/4 to 5/10 can be made easily. im not on here frequently to keep up, but 5/10 is softer than 2/4, and can be exploited by skills you learn playing shorthanded.

one other thing...3-4bb/100 is easily attainable if you play more hands.

good luck.

[meep_42]

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one other thing...3-4bb/100 is easily attainable if you play more hands.

good luck.

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I disagree with the word easily.

-d