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suited_ace

09-18-2005, 12:12 AM

I've been running quite well at the $22s (21% ROI, 41% ITM), but I feel that I still have a bunch of leaks to plug before even thinking about moving up. Post-flop play is one of those leaks, mainly because I'm still searching for that sweetspot where aggression and chip preservation are balanced.

Some of these hands are really non-standard for me, others are just usual business. Some I like, others not that much... I know there's a lot of stuff in the same post, so feel free to comment just the hands you feel like.

1.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t1057)
Button (t390)
SB (t1220)
BB (t987)
UTG (t831)
UTG+1 (t765)
MP1 (t970)
MP2 (t1780)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
3 folds, MP2 calls t50, Hero raises to t175, 3 folds, MP2 calls t125.

Flop: (t425) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets t300, MP2 raises to t1605 (All-In), Hero calls t582 (All-In).

2.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t940)
BB (t655)
UTG (t1230)
Hero (t958)
MP2 (t952)
CO (t1320)
Button (t1945)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t30, Hero calls t30, 1 fold, CO calls t30, Button calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t180) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets t100, Hero calls t100, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls t100, BB folds.

Turn: (t480) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t300, SB folds, UTG calls t300.

River: (t1080) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

3.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t980)
UTG+2 (t615)
MP1 (t880)
MP2 (t750)
MP3 (t455)
CO (t890)
Button (t465)
Hero (t740)
BB (t1250)
UTG (t975)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t30, 5 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t90) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t30, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls t30.

Turn: (t150) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t30, Hero calls t30.

River: (t210) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets t80, BB calls t80.

4.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t770)
SB (t770)
BB (t770)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t890)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
Hero (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t30, UTG+2 calls t30, 1 fold, Hero calls t30, 4 folds, BB calls t15.

Flop: (t130) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t130) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
BB bets t30, UTG+1 calls t30, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls t30.

River: (t220) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB bets t65, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls t65.

5.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t3015)
UTG (t1220)
MP (t1600)
Hero (t1170)
Button (t585)
SB (t410)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG raises to t150, 1 fold, Hero calls t150, 2 folds, BB calls t100.

Flop: (t475) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t475) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets t150, Hero calls t150, BB folds.

River: (t775) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

09-18-2005, 12:36 AM

1) I think I regrettably call cuz of pot odds.

2) I would check the turn first...but if I must bet(and I'd like to hear the reasoning why) it would be about 1/2 the pot, maybe around 225.

3)meh, what else can you do.

4)I'd bet the flop, if he raises...well...that's where I get lost. I think your check/calling line is just asking to be drawn out on.

5)I may put in a probe bet of 200 on the flop, but I'm done with betting after that.

Someone please tell me if I'm way off on any of these.

applejuicekid

09-18-2005, 12:47 AM

1) Looks good to me. I wouldn't raise preflop, but that's just a style difference.

2)I fold the flop. If I do bet the turn I make a much smaller bet.

3) I would play this more aggressive. At a $22 atleast give your opponent a chance to pay you off. He might fold, but I like to risk it and go for a big pot.

4) I bet the flop here. Mostly because everytime it goes check, check, check, and I'm last to act I will bet so i figure it might be nice to actually have a hand sometimes. But I like your play because it keeps the pot small. However, I find it difficult to find out where I am if your opponent bets 100 on the river. This seems like a situation where you win very little when you are a head, but are also forced to pay off a better hand. Are you folding the river if he makes a bet of say 150?

5) I probably would play this the same way.