A-rag

At nanolimits, whoever gets an Ace and whatever, they call any raise. I can cap it and someone with A3 cold calls 3 bets.

Now, more often than not, these people hit their Ace AND the rag giving them 2 pairs busting my AK, KK or QQ.

There is nothing I can do to make these people fold.
I know you'll tell me I don't want them to fold because in the long run they'll end up giving me money.

Right now I'm not too sure that'll be the case since they hit their impossible hands time after time after time.

What am I supposed to do with these people?

[mattw]

patience, grasshopper. or play NL.

[jb9]

Be more careful when an A flops and you can't beat a pair of Aces. Don't automatically give up with KK or QQ when an A flops (I would still bet the flop), but try not to put in multiple bets on every street when you know your opponents will play "any ace". If the action and your read convinces you your opponent has a pair of aces, you are drawing to 2 outs and should play accordingly.

Don't worry about losing with AK to A3. It happens, but whenever they flop 2 pair, if the board pairs higher than 3 or you get the K you can still win. This will work out for you in the long run.

Don't let it put you on tilt when someone who started with a weaker hand ends up winning. This compounds the problem (i.e., you lost the hand and now you are upset and no longer playing your best).

It just happened too many times today (6 times in a row) so I couldn't help but tilting.

I'm calm now though but damn, I threw stuff around the room.

[pzhon]

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At nanolimits, whoever gets an Ace and whatever, they call any raise. I can cap it and someone with A3 cold calls 3 bets.

Now, more often than not, these people hit their Ace AND the rag giving them 2 pairs busting my AK, KK or QQ.

There is nothing I can do to make these people fold.

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If it were really true that it were more likely than not that they hit their ace and kicker, then it wouldn't be a mistake for them to call.

Since you are wrong, they are big underdogs, and they are giving you money every time they cold-call your raises. They aren't giving away the entire amount of their call; they will win some of the time, perhaps enough to encourage them to make that mistake. People who cold-call with Ax account for a lot of the profit in poker. Please don't berate them or otherwise try to discourage them from making mistakes.

Beyond microlimits, there are far fewer people cold-calling with garbage. As a result, the profitability of the game drops tremendously in BB/100.

Here is one thing I say to myself when someone shows up with an incredible hand when they did not have the odds to draw: "They are here to gamble. I'm the casino. Casinos never have a losing year."

[bholdr]

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What am I supposed to do with these people?

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take all their money. (and read SSHE for specific tactics to deal with very loose players like that)

[turaho]

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At nanolimits, whoever gets an Ace and whatever, they call any raise. I can cap it and someone with A3 cold calls 3 bets.

Now, more often than not, these people hit their Ace AND the rag giving them 2 pairs busting my AK, KK or QQ.

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equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 27.1638 % 24.78% 02.39% { A3s, A3o }
Hand 2: 72.8362 % 70.45% 02.39% { AKs, AKo }


equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 29.9410 % 29.71% 00.23% { A3s, A3o }
Hand 2: 70.0590 % 69.83% 00.23% { KK }


equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 29.8912 % 29.67% 00.22% { A3s, A3o }
Hand 2: 70.1088 % 69.89% 00.22% { QQ }


Actually, more often than not, you'll be beating these people. You should be getting on your knees and thanking them for calling 3 or 4 bets cold preflop. They are dead money.

[JonPKibble]

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Now, more often than not, these people hit their Ace AND the rag giving them 2 pairs busting my AK, KK or QQ.

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Increase your sample size.

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What am I supposed to do with these people?

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take all their money. (and read SSHE for specific tactics to deal with very loose players like that)

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More specifically, what you will do is lose some large pots to them occasionally when they get lucky and hit - plus some times where you think they have A3, but in fact, they have AA or some other strong hand - but over the long run, you take MUCH more money from them than they take from you.

[beekeeper]

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More specifically, what you will do is lose some large pots to them occasionally when they get lucky and hit - plus some times where you think they have A3, but in fact, they have AA or some other strong hand - but over the long run, you take MUCH more money from them than they take from you.

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Is this still true if 60% of the field plays the same way (to the river with any weak Ace)?

[JonPKibble]

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More specifically, what you will do is lose some large pots to them occasionally when they get lucky and hit - plus some times where you think they have A3, but in fact, they have AA or some other strong hand - but over the long run, you take MUCH more money from them than they take from you.

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Is this still true if 60% of the field plays the same way (to the river with any weak Ace)?

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The more the merrier. That just means you'll be paid off even more when your hand holds up.

[TaoTe]

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It just happened too many times today (6 times in a row) so I couldn't help but tilting.

I'm calm now though but damn, I threw stuff around the room.

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It's important to remember two things while tilting:

1) Make sure you break whatever you're throwing, as this add 10x the satisfaction of throwing say, a plastic bottle and just having it bounce off the wall.
2) Don't throw anything that you don't want to break. Many, many times I've broken something I needed or that was important. When playing playsation I used to break so many controllers that I would go through one a week until I just kept some of my old ones close at hand whenever I played to use for venting.
3) Don't throw something you want to break at something you don't want to break.
4)I don't know how to count!/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[bholdr]

go to two dimes (http://www.twodimes.net/poker/) and run some simulations of the hands that frustrate you- you'll see that you have much more equity in those pots and you'll hopefully be more confidant and aggressive with your big pairs as a result. this is a very usefull tool in general.

[Student]

Appreciate your linkage to two dimes! It seems to permit evaluating situations not covered by PokerStove...

Dave

[Pov]

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Appreciate your linkage to two dimes! It seems to permit evaluating situations not covered by PokerStove...

Dave

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I find the opposite to be true. Other than non hold 'em games, what is an example?

Twodimes is very nice, but has no support for hand ranges which is the only thing I find it useful to simulate against since you can't know your opponent's hand for sure.

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More specifically, what you will do is lose some large pots to them occasionally when they get lucky and hit - plus some times where you think they have A3, but in fact, they have AA or some other strong hand - but over the long run, you take MUCH more money from them than they take from you.

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Is this still true if 60% of the field plays the same way (to the river with any weak Ace)?

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The number of pots you win will go down, but the size of the pots you win should go up.