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algorhythm
09-17-2005, 08:50 AM
Villain 1 is new to the table. Villain 2 has been around for a while, very loose preflop, loose passive postflop. Has been seen to call down with low flush draws and the like.

Party Poker Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($64.35)
SB ($18.30)
<font color="#C00000">BB :villain 1 ($24.75)</font>
UTG :villain 2 ($46.95)
UTG+1 ($20.43)
MP1 ($21.45)
MP2 ($24.75)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($25)</font>
CO ($44.86)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG :villain 2 raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB :villain 1 raises to $3.85</font>, UTG villain 2 calls $3.10, Hero calls $3.10, Button calls $3.10.

Standard call preflop here. It's a good guess villain 1 has AAxx. Villain 2 could have anything he thinks is decent.

Flop: ($15.50) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">villain 1 bets $5</font>, villain 2 calls $5, Hero calls $5, Button folds.

I'm priced in for the double bellybuster but I know nothing about villain 2's holding.

Turn: ($30.50) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">villain 1 bets $5</font>, villain 2 calls $5, Hero calls $5.

Bad card for my hand but it's very cheap to stay in. Villain 2 has been seen to slowplay too so he may have a made hand at this stage.

River: ($45.50) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">villain 1 bets $10.9 (All-In)</font>, villain 2 folds, Hero calls $10.90.

Final Pot: $67.30

Flush hasn't gotten there. My hand is very marginal. But KQ and Q8 are the only two hands I don't split with.

Given the likelihood Villain 1 has AAxx, is this a standard call on the end? Is there a better line on any of the streets? I'm usually more aggressive but I'm not keen on pressing a double belly buster with a non-nut end against very loose players.

All opinions welcome.

liquid
09-17-2005, 09:07 AM
Given the two-flush (and the prospects for what happened happening) I probably fold the flop without a better read on V1. The river is an easy call if I've stuck around that far -- that's the decision I made when I called the flop/turn.

09-17-2005, 10:18 AM
How did you get the hand converter to work for Party Poker PLO??

Oh yeah, and I thought you played this well, you were given the right price to draw regardless.

algorhythm
09-17-2005, 12:37 PM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Number=3193390&amp;fpart=1#Post32003 87 which I found from the FAQ shows how to get the hand convertor to work.