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bambi
09-17-2005, 07:49 AM
i have 84s in the SB how many limpers do i need before i complete?
bakku
09-17-2005, 07:50 AM
8
thirddan
09-17-2005, 07:55 AM
what is the blind structure?
bakku
09-17-2005, 07:59 AM
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what is the blind structure?

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i think a better question is what suit are your cards?
bambi
09-17-2005, 08:01 AM
normal 1/2 blind structure
thirddan
09-17-2005, 08:07 AM
are you drunk? /images/graemlins/smile.gif
thirddan
09-17-2005, 08:08 AM
in a 1/2 blind structure i complete with any two suited if there are two limpers, but if hte bb is some kind of crazy aggro guy then i won't limp as often...


at a 1/3 structure like the 3/6 online games then you have to tighten up...
bambi
09-17-2005, 08:13 AM
Why does it matter if the BB raises? the pot will still be offering you the same odds?

Any two suited even like J2?
thirddan
09-17-2005, 08:15 AM
yes, even J2...

if there is a high likelihood o the bb raising then its cuttin g down on your odds...there are times when you will be getting worse odds to call the raise then you were to complete the original bet...
bambi
09-17-2005, 08:20 AM
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yes, even J2...

if there is a high likelihood o the bb raising then its cuttin g down on your odds...there are times when you will be getting worse odds to call the raise then you were to complete the original bet...

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An example would be? sorry i cant think of one. I always thought the odds were the same giving that no one will reraise and all call
lerxst337
09-17-2005, 09:24 AM
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yes, even J2...

if there is a high likelihood o the bb raising then its cuttin g down on your odds...there are times when you will be getting worse odds to call the raise then you were to complete the original bet...

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An example would be? sorry i cant think of one. I always thought the odds were the same giving that no one will reraise and all call

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Your POT odds are the same (assuming there isn't a LRR), but your implied odds are worse, from the perspective of completing the small blind. To put it another way, if you KNOW that the BB will raise, you would certainly tighted up in the small blind, because when the BB raises, you put in 1.5 SB (or triple your original intended contribution) to win only a double sized pot. Therefore, if there is a higher than normal likelyhood that the BB will raise after you complete, you should defend less.