Harassment at the workplace

[TheCroShow]

I'm sure this topic has been beaten to death but I had a sensitive experience with this tonight at work. Basically 15 of us were just hired, we are receiving x amount of training for 5 weeks, and we all train together..blah blah...i've been sitting next to this girl all week (ugly, not attractive in the slightest, i know one of you OOTiots will ask!)

anyway..she asked me tonight if it was warm in the training room. i say no, it's not warm. the guy next to me says "yeah it is kinda warm." i jokingly say to him "Yeah it's so hot in here i'm just gonna rip off my shirt!" he laughs and says "Yah man we will turn this into a beach!"

now a little backstory for you. the girl has been acting like a battle axe all night. "I'm so tired, i don't wanna be here, i'm in a bad mood." whoa wait...she has been moaning and complaining ALL WEEK!

i'm aware of 3rd party harassment and obviously so is this girl. as our trainer walks near us she says in a loud bitchy voice "hey you guys, that's harassment and i don't like it!" WHOOOOOOAAAAA our trainer has a chat with us and tells us to be careful as that can be viewed as sexual harassment.

so if this (insert nasty word here) wanted to get us in a world of trouble, she could have! (in theory!)

do any of you have horror stories of getting written, getting a warning, or whatever for the dumbest and smallest thing that can be viewed as harassment? heard a few interesting stories but i will let you guys share first!

[Lazymeatball]

if that can be viewd as harrasment, find a new job.

also, find a new avatar.

[ethan]

SIIHP

And [censored] it until she bleeds out.

[TheCroShow]

i'm not going to find a new job, it's a pretty decent job and pays fairly well. i'm usually very good with what i say and do at the workplace. i have yet to curse or say/do anything offensive. my other co-workers are a completely different story! my co-worker was just being a bitch when she said that, but i guess i'll have to be more careful lol

one example i heard from that workplace..a couple worked there, and the guy was on break and the girl was at her desk. he went up to her and rubbed her shoulders because she was stressed out. a 3rd party saw this, reported it and the two of them got written up for sexual harassment. that's pretty [censored] stupid IMO, but i would never do someething like that in the first place. anyway.....

[Edge34]

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

So the next time this ugly bitch says something to you, make sure she knows how sensitive you are to conversation about the weather or the project you've been assigned to.

Outside of that, actually sit down and speak to the manager or whoever if you think this chick is going to be a problem. Lay out your concerns with how she seems to act in a group work situation, and just be mature about it. Much better to have everybody in the know and have the boss able to take care of it than to get fired and have some BS lawsuit on your hands.

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the guy was on break and the girl was at her desk. he went up to her and rubbed her shoulders because she was stressed out. a 3rd party saw this, reported it and the two of them got written up for sexual harassment. that's pretty [censored] stupid IMO, but i would never do someething like that in the first place. anyway.....

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I would love to get back rubs at the office. That would be cool. I think all workplaces should have a back rub guy who makes the rounds.

[TheCroShow]

yes, on monday i am requesting a seat change. she's a lot like that girl from Beavis & Butthead, Daria aka "Diarrhea." same kind of voice, same kind of sarcasm and same kind of negativity lol. ANd I'm going to tell my trainer why: she's a bitch, she does not work with the rest of the team, and way too [censored] sensitive.

[HopeydaFish]

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yes, on monday i am requesting a seat change. she's a lot like that girl from Beavis & Butthead, Daria aka "Diarrhea." same kind of voice, same kind of sarcasm and same kind of negativity lol. ANd I'm going to tell my trainer why: she's a bitch, she does not work with the rest of the team, and way too [censored] sensitive.

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Be professional about it. Otherwise *you* might be seen as the whiner. But that's definitely the way to go.

[MikeNaked]

I'm a young, male high school teacher. Twice, I've had to deal w/ harrassment issues.

1) A girl wanted out of my class because I winked at her and made her "feel uncomfortable." I have a habit of winking as I'm making jokes or commiserating with someone. I'm have to break it.
2) Two "special" girls claimed I touched their asses. Thankfully, my admin grilled them and their story unravelled.

This is a friggin nightmare when it happens, but thankfully I have admins who are supportive and back me up. Still, we have to go through due process - paperwork, meetings, weeks of agony.

[LethalRose]

yea dude, dont say stuff like that around a girl you know little about.

I train a lot too so Im always seeing new people. Whenever I get a girl i need to train for a week i act extremely professional until it is clear its cool if things are lightened up a bit. I usually present small opportunities for her to crack a joke or say something perverted, if she does its cool, if she doesnt usually it means shes a nit. Same thing goes for guys too, people are weird..

[TheCroShow]

yeah, teaching can be tricky eh? i was in the Education program for 3 years and we were told that a closed door with a single student can be harassment, always keep the door open, etc etc.

about the professionalism on monday, i plan on it. i'm not going to approach my trainer and say "listen here, this girl is a total bitch and i [censored] hate her, i want a seat change." i'll say something along the lines of, "i would like a seat change because i have a few issues with my co-worker on my right. she's not much of a team player, she has a negative attitude while she works and i would rather work closer with a person that is willing to work with me and has a more positive outlook on work, blah blah." basically i'd rather sit in the one empty seat in the backrow that happens to be next to the prettiest girl in our training class. haha

[MikeNaked]

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yeah, teaching can be tricky eh? i was in the Education program for 3 years and we were told that a closed door with a single student can be harassment, always keep the door open, etc etc.


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Yeah basically if you're a male teacher, you have to be a robot. My union advises the following:

NO touching (including handshakes)
hugging (girls always are trying to hug me; I am now adept at the 'sidehug')
giving kids rides home (even if its raining at 9pm)
speaking alone with students
revealing *any* personal info
writing personal notes
giving or accepting gifts

and on and on...

[TheCroShow]

if i knew about this [censored] back when i was a stupid 14 year old...listen to these cases of harassment by teachers:

one time i was late for class, my teacher (female, age 40+) slapped my ass when she let me in. our classroom door was locked i had to knock to get in.

another time a teacher was telling us how to prepare heroine. wish i were making that up.

my phys ed teacher kicked out me and my buddy for talking in the middle of class. he was a total hard ass, total jerk...so we waited outside our classroom. he came out to get us and we thought it would be funny if we pretended like we were being arrested. we put our hands up over our heads or whatever and cannot remember what we said, and then our freakin teacher punched us pretty hard in the stomach!

[tonypaladino]

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back when i was a stupid 14 year old...

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back, like, six months ago dawson?

[Sightless]

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freakin teacher punched us pretty hard in the stomach!


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Owned

[Sephus]

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another time a teacher was telling us how to prepare heroine. wish i were making that up.

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resisting the urge to make a lame joke...

...whew.

[imported_anacardo]

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yeah, teaching can be tricky eh? i was in the Education program for 3 years and we were told that a closed door with a single student can be harassment, always keep the door open, etc etc.


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Yeah basically if you're a male teacher, you have to be a robot. My union advises the following:

NO touching (including handshakes)
hugging (girls always are trying to hug me; I am now adept at the 'sidehug')
giving kids rides home (even if its raining at 9pm)
speaking alone with students
revealing *any* personal info
writing personal notes
giving or accepting gifts

and on and on...

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And people wonder why I don't want to teach.

I just don't think I should have to deal with career-threatening consequences if I high-five a kid a little too hard, or hug a girl who's had a rough day, then refuse to raise her test score.

Not that I'd be bothered particularly, or that I'm Mr. Touchy-Feely, but I doooooooo what I feeeeeeeeel liiiike.

[utmt40]

I actually had an expeirence recently at the Bank I work at. Needless to say the putz in question here no longer works there. Anyway, me and the assistant branch mngr at the time (now manager) were talking with one of the tellers and she was showing us a picture of her daughter and she kept going on about how her daughter changed her hair color to brown (she is a natural blonde) she keeps going on about how she doesnt like it and what not so the assit mngr says just tell her that she looks nicer with it blonde and I kinda laughed and said yeah tell her that its hotter that way she'll understand that better. We all laugh and go on. So the next day the branch manager who is also no longer with us calls me back to the office and starts talking to me and puts me on a verbal warning so saying that I said that her daughter was HOTT. Which I did not even come close to saying. Secondly, the mother of the girl (the teller we were talking to at the time) didnt even say anything it was the other teller that was listening who went and said something. So I went off about it and told them I wasnt signing anything because they hadnt even asked me what happened yet. So basically nothing came of it but I was pissed at the time and now that bitch teller isnt there because she was fired and the dumb ass mngr is gone now too so life is much much better at the bank now.

[manpower]

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Yeah basically if you're a male teacher, you have to be a robot.

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I feel for you man, a few years after I got out of HS one of the gym teachers got canned for supposedly touching a couple girl's legs. It turned out to be completely made up, but the poor guy didn't get his job back.

[jokerthief]

This is why women make less than men on average.

[manpower]

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This is why women make less than men on average.

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Oh, he went there...